Talk:Chamaenerion angustifolium

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Fireweed as pharmaceutical
Fireweed (Epilobium angustifolium) has been used for centuries in widely scattered parts of the world for medicinal purposes. It is well known as a specific for what are vaguely referred to as "men's complaints," and is marketed commercially as a tincture which is prescribed to treat diseases of the prostate gland.75.208.215.43 02:30, 5 September 2007 (UTC)


 * OK, but Verifiability applies here. (Given the large number of medical claims for many plants, and the difficulty in tracking down where the claims come from, the presumption should be that they fall under material "likely to be challenged"). Kingdon 16:37, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Move to Chamerion angustifolium
I am following the lead of the anonymous editor,, and moving this species to Chamerion angustifolium. This is consistent with Wikispecies, and both the German and French Wikipedias. --Walter Siegmund (talk) 02:04, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Chamaenerion
Maybe someone who has access and understands this stuff would like to read this paper by Sennikov in 2011 that argues that Chamaenerion is the correct name. &mdash;JerryFriedman (Talk) 03:53, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

Etymology
The terms 'fireweed' and 'willowherb' need to have their etymologies stated in the article. Zacwill ( talk ) 13:51, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Since you've been editing since 2014, I won't remind you of sofixit. I added etymology of 'willowherb' to Epilobium. I wasn't able to find a source for fireweed, perhaps because it is obvious. To quote from the article, "when a new fire or other disturbance occurs that opens up the ground to light again, the seeds germinate. Some areas with heavy seed counts in the soil can, after burning, be covered with pure dense stands of this species and when in flower the landscape is turned into fields of color." Walter Siegmund (talk) 15:39, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
 * If I had known the etymology, I would have added it it myself. Since I did not, I pointed out the omission here so that someone who did know might add it. Zacwill  ( talk ) 21:03, 10 June 2016 (UTC)

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Tolkien Reference as Cultural Depiction
I advocate for the inclusion of Tolkien's reference to Fireweed in LOTR. Wikipedia is about notability, and this is an example of a notable source referencing a notable plant. Including the reference in this article helpfully informs readers about how the wildflower has been depicted in culture, specifically literature. Since the section is entitled "Depictions in Human Culture," the reference most certainly fits that criteria.

Should similar named toxic plant be mentioned?
There is another plant commonly called fireweed in some places, native to Southern Africa, Senecio madagascariensis, which is invasive in Hawai'i, and is on their noxious weed list, as being toxic to livestock. It may also be found in Australia. https://the-riotact.com/beware-the-fireweed/81763 and https://www.une.edu.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0004/52366/2012.-Fireweed-A-Best-Practice-Management-Guide-for-Australian-Landholders.pdf  UnderEducatedGeezer (talk) 05:25, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I see no need to do so on this page, this is one, if not the main, reason we should not use common names as titles. A disambiguation page should be made to point to different plants that share the same common names, we do have such a page and its link can be found at the top of this article. Hardyplants (talk) 06:18, 18 November 2020 (UTC)