Talk:Champions of Regnum

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This article is not about a website, blog, online forum, podcast or similar web that does not assert the importance or significance of its subject. It is about an online game. The fact that the game is not as massive and known as other games of the genre does not mean it is less important to people who read Wikipedia, and it definitely not means it should be deleted.


 * This article qualifies for speedy deletion because it is about "web content" and it "does not assert the importance or significance of its subject" (see db-web). Pan Dan 14:20, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Plus, before inserting a speedy deletion notice, it should be discussed here Jcpetruzza 02:23, 28 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Gosh, I really don't think that's policy. Wikipedia gets bombarded with tons of inappropriate articles, which is why we have the speedy deletion procedure.  And speedy means speedy -- we want to get rid of it as soon as possible with as little headache as possible.  When you create an article in the future, please say why the subject you're writing about is notable or show it's notable by providing some outside sources that have written about it.  Pan Dan 14:20, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Again, this article is not about Web content, but about an Online Game. The fact you don't find it interesting, does not mean it is inappropriate. Have you even read the article, before asserting it is about Web content? Besides, there are tons of articles like this:
 * Lineage II
 * World of Warcraft

To name just a few. You can see a complete list here in the Category:Massively_multiplayer_online_role-playing_games

You can also check this portal:
 * Portal:CVG

You point out that the article is not about something notable. First of all notable is subject to interpretation, so I can't by a guideline. I you use notable as a synonymous to famous, we're on the wrong way, because the criteria for selecting or deleting articles is not about is notableness (if I am wrong, why are there articles for every species of animals and plants? are they as notable as The Beatles). If there are articles about music groups, only those notable should exist? And what would mean notable? Selling more than 5 million records? That would certainly wipe out thousand of Jazz musicians.

Plus, I have included several sources that actually talk about this game, which has almos 30,000 subscriptions (I know that isn't as notable as World of Warcraft, but the number grows everyday).

You want to quickly get rid of unnecessary articles, and I understand that, but I also read you had issues with other articles and users. I appreciate you want to maintain high standards for Wikipedia and that is noble, but keep in mind that in the process of creating each articles, many hours are spent and involves hard work. The article is far from having the standards for a feature article, but I expect user contribution help improve it. Certainly, if I play an online game, I expect to find a decent article about it on Wikipedia. Your intentions may be noble, but your way of imposing your point of view about what is appropriate and what is not is not very polite.

Again, I ask for your politeness and invite you to discuss this subject here, before staining the article with a notice, as saying "this rubbish you wrote is useless, just because I don't like games that are not famous".

I await your response and hope we can settle this issue in a friendly manner

Jcpetruzza 15:36, 28 November 2006 (UTC)


 * First, please stop accusing me of saying things I never said or even remotely implied. I never said I don't find the article interesting; I never said this is "rubbish" or "useless"; I never said I don't like this game.  Second, notability is not "subject to interpretation".  As I said in my previous comment, to show that something is notable you need to show that outside sources have taken note of it.  Anyway, asserting notability is even easier; all you have to do is write something like "Regnum Online has had a lot of influence in the online gaming community" (if that's true, but it may not be true in this case) -- then the article would not qualify for speedy deletion.  Third, I was not "imposing my point of view" as you suggest -- I was following Wikipedia policy on speedy deletion.  An online game is web content, despite your claim otherwise.  Please try to understand Wikipedia policies on notability and deletion (see WP:CSD and WP:WEB) before accusing me of "imposing my point of view."  Fourth, I suggest you go to the AfD discussion and ask for userfication if the article is deleted.  Finally, I understand you were insulted by my speedy tag, but I was never impolite or unfriendly as you suggest.  By contrast, your comments above seem rather heated -- please cool it down, stop putting words in my mouth, and try to understand Wikipedia policies -- after that, if you still believe the article should be kept, go to the AfD discussion and add your voice there.  Pan Dan 15:55, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Ok, you are right, and I ask your apologize. After spending hours in writing the article your sudden deletion notice sounded almost insulting. I have further read Wikipedia policies and added further sources and tried to improve the article style. To be honest, I thought that after posting the article, someone would improve it or propose changes to meet wikipedia standards, not a speedy deletion. That surprised and disapointed me, as well as it angered me. Forgive me, for it was a newbie mistake. What I still think is that changes should be proposed on the discussion page before inserting a deletion proposal, because it is very rude for the person who wrote the article. I never meant to put words in your mouth you never said. I expect we can maintain a good relation. Mostly grateful Jcpetruzza 17:18, 28 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Apology accepted. See you around Wikipedia!  Pan Dan 17:55, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Jc, I've had the same thing happen. Don't get too involved with your article and see what needs to be fixed. Sometimes it can't be helped and you'll see that it needs to be deleted BUT, in the case of Regnum, I believe it IS notable. For one, multiple 3rd party websites have taken notice (see references for recent additions), it has a large fan base and probably has more people playing it than Dungeon Lords ever had people buy. Pan Dan, you should mark THAT artical for deletion. But yes, outside sources? There's more, although I assume 70% of them are Spanish based. --Notmyhandle 20:41, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Dead Links
Whoever added the external links needs to 1)learn how to copy and paste URL's, and 2)update the current ones that contain "..."; those URL's translate to nothing, so in essence ARE NOTHING! --Notmyhandle 20:45, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

AO?
The infobox has the ESRB rating as AO, and the source link has no info on why that is...anyone know why? I'd find that incredibly surprising, considering how few games are rated AO. --PresN 22:49, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't know why, but I have sent an inquiry to the reference. Probably it is wrong and will be corrected soon enough. --Notmyhandle 23:15, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

System requirements
Minimum 800 mhz jumps to a recommended 3.0 ghz? That's quite a jump..

--Josh1billion 02:09, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Dark Age of Camelot
The game reminds of the mmorpg DAoC, nearly like a free clone. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.130.216.193 (talk) 21:58, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Removal of notablity template
I will remove the not notable warning for the following reasons:
 * The game has multiple websites, available in multiple languages, that means its widely played by linux users
 * The content is cited
 * The game is featured in big websites, like mmosite or gamershell. Also, many, and various reviews exists.
 * The warning is old, so the discussion
 * The game isn't tagged as not notable in other wikipedias

in b4 replacing the tag, please write down your cited reasons here, at the talk page, kthxbye

--Drhlajos (talk) 08:23, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Realms Online
How is "Realms Online" related to Regnum Online? Just another name for same game? Why are there two separate web pages for them? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.176.210.14 (talk) 10:24, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Champions of Regnum
The games Regnum Online and Realms Online no longer exist and have been merged into one game named Champions of Regnum. I recommend this article be renamed accordingly. 216.47.200.235 (talk) 19:30, 16 April 2013 (UTC)


 * I agree with this recommendation.

Move page to Champions of Regnum
Please do the following changes: Move page under name Champions of Regnum. Replace "Regnum Online" with "Champions of Regnum" or "Champions of Regnum (formerly Regnum Online)". Remove references to Realms Online. 80.223.176.204 (talk) 14:16, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

Quick clean up and update (2020)
Removed a broken link to a review and the two opinions of the review (as the citation can no longer be found). Also added section regarding steam launch. In future this may need expanding if/when they relaunch on steam (I believe this was discussed by the developers on the forum, but I'm unable to find the link). Much more citation is needed throughout the page, I'll highlight a few areas:

In order the promote intensity and smoothness of combat, the developers deliberately reduced the graphics detail.

The differences between the races of the three realms is cosmetic as all share the same character classes and powers

FraserJamesRobinson (talk) 21:46, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

Proposed merge of Regnum (video game) into Champions of Regnum
Relevant to the history of this game. Atlantic306 (talk) 00:17, 8 February 2020 (UTC)