Talk:Chancellor of the Tang dynasty

Translations of official title: are they standard?
I just wanted to ask where the translations of the names of government agencies in this wiki come from. The main question is whether they appear in the English-language literature on this topic. Shangshu sheng 尚書省, for example, is here translated as "executive bureau," but both the Sui-Tang volume of the Cambridge History of China and Charles Hucker's Dictionary of Official Titles in Imperial China translate shangshu sheng as "Department of State Affairs." If there are reliable sources that use "executive bureau," I hope someone can cite them. Otherwise I propose to shift to the standard translations (as found in CHC and Hucker) for all the official positions and agencies named in this wiki. Suggestions? Madalibi (talk) 05:58, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I actually don't object to using Hucker here, even though I find Hucker to be imprecise in many areas. "Executive Bureau" was my own take on translating Bo Yang's rendition in modern Chinese - 國務院.  I find this more precise, but I realize that others may opine differently.  --Nlu (talk) 14:10, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

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"Chancellor" or "chief minister"
I don't feel strongly about this one way or the other, but wondering if "chief minister" or "grand councilor" should be substituted for "chancellor" in this and related articles. Most contemporary scholarship seems to use "chief minister" in relation to the highest tier of decision-making officials. Chancellor seems most commonly used to refer to the specific prime ministerial office in Former Han that was supplanted by the situ. Interested in hearing other thoughts on this as the current usage is pretty consistent across Wiki. Marquisate (talk) 22:00, 13 February 2022 (UTC)