Talk:Chang Dongsheng

Taiwan and China
Due to his having lived and had significant events in both China and Taiwan, I believe it belongs within the scope of BOTH wikiprojects. ludahai 魯大海 14:49, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Chang Tung Sheng was not a Muslim
Hebei province is to the east of the country, whereas the vast, overpowering majority of Chinese Muslims are in northwestern China. I really wish people would stop propagating that myth. Besides, the Muslim Community of China has its own martial art called "Muslim Longfist" whose effectiveness is more than well documented. When the emperor needed bodygards (I believe it was the late Manchu dynasty of emperors), 10 styles were represented. Among them, Yang's Tai Chi, the other Tibetan Crane style, and the other, Muslim Longfist. The remainder I believe was Shuia Jiao.

Generally websites or the like claiming Sheng was a Muslim do not provide a source. If a source exists, please provide it.

206.63.78.91 (talk)stardingo747 —Preceding comment was added at 06:00, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Well Chang Dong Sheng was a Hui from Baoding. This is a well-known fact and you can ask his grandson Chang Da Wei who lives in Taipei. Also your claim of the 10 styles represented was not true. Tibetan Crane was never presented to the Manchu Emperors. It is a style which is originated from southern China, Guangzhou area to be exact, and although it claims heritage from Tibet, this is more a oral tradition than a written history.

There was not one but many styles practiced by Hui in northern China. The styles are regional based as well. In Henan it was Xingyi Quan, in Shangdong it is Cha Quan, in Beijing it is Baiyuan Tongbei, and in Gansu it is Bameng Quan. Also noted that Han and other ethnic-lingual groups practiced these styles as well.

Karolus 2008-1-10 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.190.32.7 (talk) 15:34, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

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Robert W. Smith's accounts of Chang
In Smith's book (Chinese Boxing: Masters And Methods) he notes that Chang was the most disciplined boxer he met in Taiwan. He goes on to remark that Chang was a Moslem who neither smoked nor drank, and that Chang "slapped" him in the groin, very much not the same thing as "kicked". Furthermore, Smith did study a while with him, though it does appear that Chang did not approve of Smith studying with Cheng Man-ch'ing. 98.30.1.84 (talk) 11:53, 16 July 2017 (UTC)