Talk:Changan Automobile/Archives/2015

Requested move 14 August 2015

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The result of the move request was: moved. Jenks24 (talk) 09:48, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

Chang'an Automobile Group → Changan Automobile – See the logo on the page, as well as the official sites (changan.com.cn, globalchangan.com), nowhere does the name contain an apostrophe. I understand WP:PINYIN requires an apostrophe there, but Chinese companies are not obliged to use pinyin to generate their English names, e.g. Sohu is not Souhu, and Haier is not Hai'er. Related pages are already at "Changan": Changan Suzuki & Changan Ford Mazda. As for the word "Group", it shouldn't be there if it's not ambiguous per NCCORP, also see the official site. Timmyshin (talk) 20:04, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Timmyshin I have limited knowledge of the company but, while I tend to agree with the dropped apostrophe, I think that there could be a number of possible titles such as Changan Automobile Group, Changan Automobile Company, Changan Automobile (as suggested) or just Changan (but, although the brand has high notability in itself, there may be small details problems in relation to Chang'an). See search on site:www.globalchangan.com/About/ "Chang'an" OR Changan.  I don't know how the company and products are referred to in other sources which may be an important factor.  Whatever happens I think it would be helpful if there were a hatnote system between the two Chang'an articles.  GregKaye 06:11, 15 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Oppose - whoever cites common usage as reason to rename the page may have not realized that an inaccurate name, even when commonly used, is discouraged per WP:COMMONNAME. Changan would be (mis)pronounced as Chan-gan. An apostrophe helps a distinction. Sometimes, an official name wouldn't be that accurate. --George Ho (talk) 20:05, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
 * But neutral on dropping "Group". George Ho (talk) 20:06, 21 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Support. It appears to be both the common name and the official one. Not sure how exactly an official name can be interpreted as being "inaccurate."  Calidum   07:20, 22 August 2015 (UTC)


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