Talk:Charcoal-burning suicide

Inaccuracies
Mechansim § indicates exhaustion of available oxygen which is incorrect. It is rather the increase in concentration of CO that results in poisoning as hemoglobin binds CO much more efficiently than it does O2. Also in other, presumably traumatic methods, it is the fear of the associated trauma that must be overcome, death is the same in any case. Also, I don't believe a suffocation reaction accompanies CO poisoning (as it does in C02 poisoning) when breathing is not impaired .74.78.162.229 (talk) 05:56, 26 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Stable binding of CO reduces availability of bound oxygen in the blood. This is what it meant. Source does not have a misunderstanding of the science, you have a misunderstanding of the source. Also, what you believe is meaningless unless you can present a source or your own qualification. 75.168.84.201 (talk) 04:43, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

Historical Aspect
Suicide by charcoal has been around a while. It is discussed in an 1844 novel, The Wandering Jew, by Eugene Sue, himself a physician, at Part III, Book IX, Chapters 31 and 32. Accidental death by charcoal is reported almost every winter in the papers, as unknowing people attempt to heat with charcoal. Since charcoal has been in use for very many centuries, one suspects that both the ignorance for accidental death and the knowledge for suicide have also been around a good while. As for the mechanism, Chapter 33 mentions that it is by toxic gas. Jm546 (talk) 22:02, 15 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Above is interesting but it's not related to the thread I started, made the change for the thread above. The Wandering Jew is in the public domain, so should be added, not unusual discovery that there's more depth than current article state/current popular understanding shows. Will try to add this later. 72.228.189.184 (talk) 14:36, 29 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Scanned the two chapters in question, and didn't see anything but chapters 31 and 32 are in book II and the gutenberg text doesn't have Parts. Scanning for "charcoal" found it's actually in Chapter 3, wherever else, adding to the article.

Kim Jonghyun
Hello,

Please be a bit more careful and consider that Jonghyun's death using this method is circumstantial. There can not be any direct conclusions for Jonghyun's case, since his possible suicide heavily relied on the text messages to his sister, and the suicide letter sent to Dear Cloud's Nine9. The police would have needed direct evidence, such as video evidence or a suicide plan written on paper by Jonghyun (which was not found), to prove Jonghyun has in fact ended his life through suicide to conclude that it was indeed suicide.

Hope you understand.

Tibbydibby (talk) 18:38, 13 January 2018 (UTC)