Talk:Charismatic Christianity/Archive 1

''Archive of discussions for 2004 until 2005, when the article was merged with Charismatic Movement. Note: discusssions may be refactored.''

Related text
The text below was posted at Charismatics, and is pasted here for anyone to merge in. Charles Matthews 09:16, 12 May 2004 (UTC)

I integrated his comments, although I changed them substantially. I'll leave them here as is in case anyone wants a baseline to compare with. Glen Davis 02:30, Jun 1, 2004 (UTC)

Nitpicking
Suggestion: The "fundamentalist" link under "Theological Distinctives" should go to the "Fundamentalist Christianity" article rather than the general "Fundamentalist" one, or is there a good reason to keep it as is? [Unsigned comment by User:70.80.50.187 04:03, 13 December 2004]

Catholic Charismatics
From my observations, besides pentecostals, catholic charismatics, majority philipino, are the largest segment within this umbrella. Often they are called "THE charismatics" from within the catholic church. Although they were obviously heavily influenced by pentecostalism, they may not admit it, and contain many elements such as a promininence in devotion to Mary which would cause friction with other "charismatic" protestants. Is this true? If so then it seems the article should be changed to reflect all this. [Unsigned comment by User:67.180.61.179 06:20, 7 January 2005]

This seems more complete coverage than found at Charismatic Movement
Should they be merged? Paul foord 13:16, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

A glaring ommission
There is no discussion of the early church fathers with supporting quotations. I strongly believe there should be. Please see: http://www.victorious.org/sprgifts.htm ken 17:36, 9 August 2005 (UTC)kdbuffalo


 * I added:


 * "Dr. Dale A. Robbins writes in regards to charasmatic beliefs that Church history argues against the idea that charismatic gifts went away shortly after the apostolic age. Dr. Robbins quotes the early church father Irenaeus (ca. 130-202) as writing the following,"...we hear many of the brethren in the church who have prophetic gifts, and who speak in tongues through the spirit, and who also bring to light the secret things of men for their benefit [word of knowledge]...". Dr. Robbins also cites Irenaues writing the following, "When God saw it necessary, and the church prayed and fasted much, they did miraculous things, even of bringing back the spirit to a dead man."  According to Dr. Robbins Tertullian (ca. 155–230) reported similar incidents as did Origen (ca. 182 - 251), Eusebius (ca. 275 – 339), Firmilian (ca. 232-269), and Chrysostom (ca. 347 - 407)."


 * ken 01:24, 30 August 2005 (UTC)kdbuffalo

Recent edit
Recent edit:

- Made a few changes to the criticisms section.

- Removed the following section because it is unnecessary and irrelevent. Why on earth does anyone care what charismatic churches there are in India? It is also completely unrelated to the rest of the article.

Charismatic Churches in India

 * Association of Vineyard Churches
 * Bible Brethren Fellowship
 * Blessing Youth Mission
 * Christian Fellowship Centre
 * Eternal Light Ministries
 * Fellowship of Evangelical Friends
 * Fellowship of Gospel Churches
 * Gospel Echoing Missionary Society
 * Native Missionary Movement
 * New Life Churches
 * Orissa Missionary Movement
 * Prince of Peace Church
 * Tamil Christian Fellowship

--EthanSudman 04:58, 11 September 2005 (UTC)


 * List of Charismatic Churches in India I have made of these entries. Sarcelles 09:53, 11 September 2005 (UTC)


 * While I personally don't care, and did not put it there -- I would assume that information about charismatic communities in the world's second largest country, and where Christianity is growing apace is relevant, especially to people from there, who can access the web and read English. Ethnocentrisms is a strange sentiment on this topic.  It should be restored. -- Anon. [ User:138.88.94.214 23:55, 29 October 2005]

Merging
I have merged both the page and the discussion into Charismatic Movement (a much better title) and turned this page into a disambiguation. User:DaveDave 18:55, 25 December 2005