Talk:Charismatic movement

Pentecostals are NOT Charismatic
Nothing on Wikipeida is so blatantly wrong then citing Pentecostalism as part of the history of the Charismatic movement. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.92.229.89 (talk) 17:21, 14 May 2012 (UTC)


 * The article simply notes that (1) there is a historical relationship between the two movements, i.e. the CM resulted from mainline Christians being exposed and adopting beliefs and practices that up until that time had largely been confined to the PM, and (2) today many people use the terms "Pentecostal" and "Charismatic" interchangeably. Basically, Pentecostalism is part of the history of the CM. Pentecostalism is its Father, Mother, and Sibling. Sorry if that offends you, but truth hurts sometimes. Ltwin (talk) 19:13, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I think Charismatic Movement and charismatic should be contrasted, and distinguished by the use of capitals for the former but not the latter. Pentecostals are charismatic in that they believe in the gifts of the Spirit, but are not part of the ''Charismatic Movement," a historical movement beginning in the mainline denominations about 1960... Hyper3 (talk) 19:26, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, the terms Pentecostal and Charismatic are used interchangeably in modern times. Some people don't like the word "Pentecostal" because they don't want to be "confined to a denomination". They instead use "Charismatic" to simply state that they are non-denominational, but that their ministry/movement accepts the gifts of the Holy Spirit in their church services. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.101.232.73 (talk) 00:28, 11 December 2016 (UTC)

Misleading modernist emphasis
The article, especially in the lede, gives the impression that "being filled by the Holy Spirit" and spiritual gifts such as speaking in tongues are modern inventions or phenomena. In fact, whilst Charismatic Movement itself is relatively modern, its beliefs and practices are clearly expounded in the Bible. In fact, my understanding is that they largely fell out of favour with the Church in later centuries until the Pentecostal revival and Charismatic Movement resurrected them (pardon the pun!). This somehow needs to be explained in the article, ideally by someone more expert than I. --Bermicourt (talk) 19:06, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

This page requires a criticism of Charismatic movement as well
Opinions? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.2.236.197 (talk) 12:44, 27 February 2013 (UTC)


 * No topic "requires a criticism". Editors are only "required" to maintain WP:Neutral point of view and avoid giving WP:Undo weight. If there have been any critical assessments written about the movement in WP:Reliable sources that you are aware of then you are free to put that in the article. Ltwin (talk) 03:56, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Given that its detractors claim rightly or wrongly that the view that gifts had ceased was almost universal before the charismatic movement, it's very odd to have no reference to them at all. I have inserted a small referenced section in beliefs to reflect this. It may be better subtitled and added elsewhere. Cpsoper (talk) 22:54, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

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Two pages?
Is there enough significant differences between the Charismatic Movement and Charismatic Christianity to warrant two separate pages? Could they possibly be combined? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.101.232.73 (talk) 00:30, 11 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Yes, it is necessary. The Charismatic Movement is confined to mainline Protestants and Roman Catholics who embraced certain Pentecostal teachings beginning in the 1960s. The term "Charismatic Christianity" is a much broader term including classical Pentecostals, the charismatic movements in the historical churches, and newer Pentecostal-like religious movements (such as neo-charismatic movement, the evangelical charismatic movement, and the New Apostolic Reformation). Ltwin (talk)

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The Holy Spirit and You
One of the early best definition books on the Charismatic Movement is the book, "The Holy Spirit and You," by Dennis & Rita Bennett 1971, by Bridge Publishing Inc. It makes the statement, "The 1973 Yearbook of the Encyclopaedia Britannica says: "When in 1960, Father Dennis Bennett announced to his congregation, St. Mark's Episcopal Church in Van Nuys, Calif., that he had experienced a new outpouring of God's Spirit, the recent movement can be said to have begun."4.4.123.189 (talk) 18:36, 19 May 2021 (UTC)