Talk:Charles Chetwynd-Talbot, 22nd Earl of Shrewsbury

Verifiability

 * Thanks! 10mmsocket (talk) 16:47, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

If you look at John Montagu, 11th Earl of Sandwich that is what a template is for elected Hereditary Peers which are still in the House of Lords. There are more.
 * Michael Brougham, 5th Baron Brougham and Vaux
 * Lucius Cary, 15th Viscount Falkland
 * Euan Geddes, 3rd Baron Geddes


 * List of hereditary peers elected under the House of Lords Act 1999 look at the others please  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.191.237.115 (talk) 00:02, 28 December 2022 (UTC)


 * It's easy to solve this. Provide a reference that he was one of the ones included. How you format the information, which you have shown, is irrelevant if it isn't properly sourced. --10mmsocket (talk) 09:28, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
 * He is an elected Hereditary Peer since 1999, look at the others. 86.191.237.115 (talk) 14:29, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
 * See WP:BURDEN - it is up to you as the one updating a page to provide references. 10mmsocket (talk) 18:53, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
 * OK but it is a fact if you look at the Elected Hereditary Peers who have remained since 1999, also can you amend John McFall (British Politician) to its rightful link please as Life Peers do not have that link. 86.191.237.115 (talk) 00:02, 29 December 2022 (UTC)

Look at 1999 House of Lords elections for your pleasure and see the elected peers86.191.237.115 (talk) 00:04, 29 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Again, read WP:BURDEN. Facts are only facts on Wikipedia pages if they have references. If there are supporting references on the other page you mention, then add that to this article. 10mmsocket (talk) 08:09, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Look at Michael Brougham, 5th Baron Brougham and Vaux and look at Charles Chetwynd-Talbot, 22nd Earl of Shrewsbury.
 * That is what an elected Hereditary Peer template should be if they have been continuous since 1999.
 * Look at:
 * Elected by the Whole House
 * Michael Brougham, 5th Baron Brougham and Vaux
 * Lucius Cary, 15th Viscount Falkland
 * Euan Geddes, 3rd Baron Geddes
 * Elected by the Conservative Group
 * Thomas Galbraith, 2nd Baron Strathclyde
 * David Trefgarne, 2nd Baron Trefgarne
 * Benjamin Mancroft, 3rd Baron Mancroft
 * Frederick Curzon, 7th Earl Howe
 * Malcolm Sinclair, 20th Earl of Caithness
 * Oliver Eden, 8th Baron Henley
 * Simon Arthur, 4th Baron Glenarthur
 * William Astor, 4th Viscount Astor
 * Patrick Stopford, 9th Earl of Courtown
 * William Peel, 3rd Earl Peel
 * Colin Moynihan, 4th Baron Moynihan
 * John Attlee, 3rd Earl Attlee
 * Giles Goschen, 4th Viscount Goschen
 * James Graham, 8th Duke of Montrose
 * Robin Bridgeman, 3rd Viscount Bridgeman
 * James Lindesay-Bethune, 16th Earl of Lindsay
 * Ralph Palmer, 12th Baron Lucas
 * James Dugdale, 2nd Baron Crathorne
 * David Verney, 21st Baron Willoughby de Broke
 * Richard Fletcher-Vane, 2nd Baron Inglewood
 * Francis Baring, 6th Baron Northbrook
 * Edward Foljambe, 5th Earl of Liverpool
 * Arthur Gore, 9th Earl of Arran
 * Alexander Scrymgeour, 12th Earl of Dundee
 * Elected by the Crossbench Group
 * Valerian Freyberg, 3rd Baron Freyberg
 * Anthony St John, 22nd Baron St John of Bletso
 * John Montagu, 11th Earl of Sandwich
 * Adrian Palmer, 4th Baron Palmer
 * Alan Brooke, 3rd Viscount Brookeborough
 * Raymond Jolliffe, 5th Baron Hylton
 * Merlin Hay, 24th Earl of Erroll
 * Janric Craig, 3rd Viscount Craigavon
 * John Anderson, 3rd Viscount Waverley
 * Ambrose Greenway, 4th Baron Greenway
 * Peter St Clair-Erskine, 7th Earl of Rosslyn
 * Please just look at the articles and I know I am right. Also look at the example 86.191.237.115 (talk) 00:28, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

10mmsocket does not like this on the Earl of Shrewsbury as nearly all Elected Hereditary Peers have this, I have the elected Whole House to do. 86.191.237.115 (talk) 19:13, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm going to echo 10mmsocket's comments - do you actually have a reliable source for this? Otherwise it's a waste of time going on about it given WP:VNT. There's no onus on him to look up pages to check the information - it's up to you to prove you are correct with a reliable, published source. Mattdaviesfsic (talk) 19:22, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
 * It is a fact though
 * Look at this article
 * I hope this helps.
 * P.S.Happy New Year. 86.191.237.115 (talk) 01:02, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
 * That specific article isn't really a reliable source WP:RS. Can you find another external-to-wikipedia article, maybe even Hansard or whatever the House of Lords equivalent is (if it's different), or some news report from a UK broadsheet? Very happy to help you format it if you can find it. 10mmsocket (talk) 01:11, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
 * And yes, happy new year, here's to a productive 2023 on Wikipedia and in real life. 10mmsocket (talk) 01:11, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Try any of this link https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld/ldjournal.htm 86.191.237.115 (talk) 18:36, 1 January 2023 (UTC)