Talk:Charles Lennox Richardson

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Saying that Richardson was "murdered" seems to imply judgment against the Satsuma bushi... I think "killed" is more neutral.. Tallasse 00:13, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

If all documents have him listed has Charles Lenox Richardson why the different spelling here? Especially as other websites are taking wikipedia's lead on this one.

Requested move 20 March 2016

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The result of the move request was: Withdrawn. George Ho (talk) 02:40, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

Charles Lennox Richardson → Death of Charles Lennox Richardson – Somehow, the death of the British merchant is more notable than the merchant himself. According to the article, the merchant risked his life for trade and got killed by the gang of samurai. ...Sounds like a notable death to me. Of course, article needs improvements and layout changes. Even "Reception" section does not make the merchant as notable as his death. George Ho (talk) 20:24, 20 March 2016 (UTC) --Relisted. George Ho (talk) 02:24, 29 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Oppose – We don't normally include what a person is notable for in the article title. Dicklyon (talk) 04:50, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Oppose – This is a biography specific to a single person. Events specific to his death are already covered in Namamugi incident.--MChew (talk) 05:36, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Oppose per Dicklyon. SnowFire (talk) 20:24, 30 March 2016 (UTC)


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Folker Reichert
Is there really no better source (upon which so much content of this article appears to rely) than a German-language article that isn't available online from the looks of it? Even if it is the best source available, there ought to be others with at least something to say about Richardson and the situation. As it stands, the article gives nothing but Folker Reichert's view, with its accusations of arrogance etc, supported by appropriate statements from Richardson's uncle and the British Envoy to China, whereas I'm sure others at the time had their own views, not represented here; this therefore doesn't really seem balanced. Of course it's entirely plausible Richardson's arrogance was solely to blame; it would however be of value to have other sources and information included in this article, to my mind. I don't mean to suggest Folker Reichert's perspective and research are unqualified by any means (he has a German Wikipedia article even if not one here, which displays his academic positions at Yokohama University and Shanghai), merely that other authors might also have had something of worth to contribute here, maybe giving a more rounded view of things than what seems to boil down simply to 'Richardson was a boor; he deserved to be killed'. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.2.120.87 (talk) 21:59, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

Suggestions of arrogance
There are no eyewitness accounts from Clark nor Marshall that claimed he said, "he knows how to manage these people". The article by Paul Martin in Japan Forward Sept 11, 2021, suggests that the incident occurred most likely due to lack of knowledge of the customs in Japan and didn't know the language and they fell into the situation by accident. The article also states that "Richardson being arrogant and purposely antagonizing the procession...appear to be unfounded" and also letters from Richardson to his family make him out to be "incredibly dutiful son and brother. He had been fined for an altercation he had with a Chinese servant while in China, but it appears to have been a solitary incident in which he took full responsibility insisting that the servant had been "insolent"."

Clear the man's name, the anniversary is tomorrow 14Sept2023, 161 yrs ago. 63.97.36.15 (talk) 06:42, 13 September 2023 (UTC)