Talk:Charles Lively (labor spy)

is his death notable enough for the intro?
I find it fine that a very brief summary of his prison terms and hotel career are not in the intro and have no issue with that being reverted, even if I think it is notable, but I really do think his suicide is certainly noteworthy and belongs in the intro. Figured I’d bring up here instead of giving off the impression of trying to start an edit war. Thanks for any responses in advance La rodman (talk) 04:47, 6 October 2022 (UTC)


 * My feeling is that the notable aspects of his life were years before, and that the various post-Matewan ventures and his suicide were pretty secondary. Note that Sid Hatfield does not include his death, and his killing was directly related to his notability! That actually needs to be fixed in my opinion. Had Hatfield died in a similar manner it would be a different issue. Figureofnine (talk • contribs) 14:21, 6 October 2022 (UTC)


 * I just added to the Hatfield article. Note the difference between Hatfield's death and Lively's suicide many years after the detective career that made him notble. Of course, if other editors agree with you I certainly would not object further to text on the death of Lively. I appreciate your not edit-warring over it. Figureofnine (talk • contribs)  20:44, 7 October 2022 (UTC)