Talk:Charles Perkins (Aboriginal activist)

Kumantjayi
Charles Nelson Perkins aka Kumantjayi Perkins immediately following his death 

What does 'immediately following his death' refer to? Ashmoo 05:29, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

In some Aboriginal cultures (including Perkins') there is a taboo about referring to the deceased's full name so a name like Kumantjayi is used for a time after death. Depending on the group the period of time can be a couple of days to months or years...--Hack 07:55, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Date of birth
I don't have a ref for this, but I read somewhere that his mother didn't record his exact birth date, nor was his birth ever registered officially. Someone chose the "middle day" of the "middle month", ie. 16 June. But that almost certainly wasn't the day he was born in 1936. Does anyone have any info about this? JackofOz 10:01, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
 * If you can find a reference for that then it should be added to the article...Hack 01:15, 4 May 2007 (UTC)


 * My memory, such as it is, tells me it was from a biography of Perkins, written when he was much in the limelight, that I was flipping through in a bookshop shortly after it was published. I have no memory of the author's name, but it seemed to be a substantial and well-written book.  It may have been the Peter Read book, but I couldn't swear to it.  I'll see if I can track this information down.  JackofOz 01:34, 4 May 2007 (UTC)


 * This from John Pilger refers to his mother's doubt even about the year. I'm not sure how we get from not even knowing whether it was 1936 or 1937, to a specific date in 1936.  --   Jack of Oz   [Talk]  03:01, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

Charles N.? Perkins
The article was moved in this edit of February 2009. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I doubt he was widely known as "Charles N. Perkins" in his lifetime. Using the N might be a convenient way of distinguishing him from other people named Charles Perkins, but is it the best way? Not if nobody would recognise him as the right person purely from the middle initial. I think I'd prefer Charles Perkins (aboriginal activist) or something similar. Comments? --  Jack of Oz    ... speak! ...   08:49, 5 August 2010 (UTC)


 * I agree. What about Dr Charles Perkins? It is his official title.Htimsleinahtan (talk) 04:13, 8 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Honorifics are not used in article titles. 69.181.249.92 (talk) 04:15, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Or even move the text to what is currently a redirect page, Charlie Perkins, which is the name by which he is probably best known (though I admit it is informal). But if that is not consistent with policy then yes, per Jack's suggestion. hamiltonstone (talk) 02:05, 15 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Somewhat belatedly, now moved. --   Jack of Oz   [Talk]  02:52, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Why is aboriginal not capitalised? The standard usage is to capitalise the letter a. Hack (talk) 03:09, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
 * You're probably right. Fixed. --   Jack of Oz   [Talk]  03:45, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

First Indigenous uni grad?
According to http://www.reconciliation.org.au/home/resources/factsheets/q-a-factsheets/five-fast-facts---recognising-indigenous-achievement-in-higher-education "Margaret Williams became the first Indigenous university graduate in Australia in 1959"

This is 6 years before Charles perkins graduated. Please research and update article as required. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.12.252.111 (talk) 03:48, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Williams seems to have graduated with a diploma. Perhaps Perkins was the first to graduate with a degree? Hack (talk) 03:49, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Possibly, but the reliable source we do have only gives us a negative on the statement in the article, so I've removed that phrase. hamiltonstone (talk) 03:54, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorted. He was the first Aboriginal male to graduate from university according to the University of Sydney. Hack (talk) 08:37, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Great job, thanks for that! hamiltonstone (talk) 00:25, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

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