Talk:Charles R. Hamilton

Rank
Hi, while I'm not saying you're wrong, you also aren't a reliable source. Please could you provide a source that says Hamilton has been reassigned and is currently a major-general? Thanks, Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk) 23:29, 29 May 2024 (UTC)


 * @Pickersgill-Cunliffe I will track down a source as soon as I can, however it is quite known that the military tries to keep flag/general officer investigations out of the general media. However they would be breaking the law if they did not take away two of his stars. A good example is General William E. Ward who was reassigned, and remained on active duty, pending the outcome of investigation, reverted back to a two-star, until he was allowed to retire as a three-star. Neovu79 (talk) 23:37, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Fascinating! Very different to how we'd do it over this side of the pond. Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk) 23:38, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Please discuss changes you'd like to make to the article here, rather than blanking large parts without an explanation. Any success in locating a source? Despite your argument about ranks, I'm wary about leaving it unsourced for too long and will argue it needs to be reverted if one can't be provided. Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk) 16:04, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
 * @Pickersgill-Cunliffe nothing yet specifically about Hamilton, other these sources here, here, and here, backing up my claim of what happens to an officer, not holding a four-star office, after 60 days; the rank reversion. But these articles are about General Ward. This reversion falls in line with of the U.S. Code of law. Neovu79 (talk) 22:07, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Here a few reliable sources- www.gomo.army.mil, www.army.mil/public/Biographies, A suspension is temporary in nature, once the investigation is done and he is relieved of his duties that's when the 60 day clock starts. In Kip Wards case he was already out of position when his investigation started, that is the major difference Gen Hamilton is still on the books as the Commanding General
 * Also feel free to call US Army General Officer Management Office, 703 697 9464. Also Gen Hamilton came to the Pentagon last week with his 4 stars on his uniform. Allgood80 (talk) 17:11, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Here a few reliable sources- www.gomo.army.mil, www.army.mil/public/Biographies, A suspension is temporary in nature, once the investigation is done and he is relieved of his duties that's when the 60 day clock starts. In Kip Wards case he was already out of position when his investigation started, that is the major difference Gen Hamilton is still on the books as the Commanding General Allgood80 (talk) 00:55, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
 * The Army normally doesn't update that website, since they don't want the investigation to go public. LTG Mohan has already been appointed as acting commanding general. By U.S. law, Hamilton cannot retain his rank, if he has been reassigned, which he has. The secretary of the Army does not have the authority to appoint an officer to retain a three or four-star rank, to a different assignment, past 60 days of an officer leaving a four-star assignment, without presidential appointment and confirmation from the Senate. Neovu79 (talk) 05:06, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
 * LTG Mohan is the Acting Commander, the reason he has that title is because Hamilton is still the commander, it is the equivalent of Hamilton being on leave. If Hamilton goes on leave then Mohan becomes the Acting Commander.  Those sites are accurate and updated on a weekly basis. Allgood80 (talk) 14:39, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Also feel free to call US Army General Officer Management Office, 703 697 9464. Also Gen Hamilton came to the Pentagon last week with his 4 stars on his uniform. Allgood80 (talk) 16:08, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I have changed the article to reflect the sources we do have, which still refer to him as a general. Until we have sources that say otherwise this should stay like this. See my edit summary. Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk) 17:30, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I can see how this can be a gray area on both sides. I can't find an article proving that U.S. law has been enforced. However, @Allgood80's your proximity to the article source could be seen as a WP:conflict of interest, and wiki editors can not contact via phone or email as we cannot post WP:original research. I do not believe you should be editing this article without WP:reliable sources outside your work environment. Neovu79 (talk) 22:24, 3 June 2024 (UTC)