Talk:Charles Rocket/Archive 1

fuck
"I'd like to know who fucking did it" sounds wrong, it sounds like "i'd like to know who the fuck did it" http://www.zebrality.com/article.php?article_id=11351 http://www.zebrality.com/media/2005/rocket.wmv

Is the hyperlink to the page on fuck really necessary?

Looking for a source
Note that TVtome.com says that the F-word incident occurred during a sketch. Anyone got another source?

I'm looking at the Yahoo link for eonline and SNL -- it's in there under "get cast secrets" link, which takes you to http://yahoo.eonline.com/On/Tales/Shows/Snl/index2.html

I saw the episode, I have the episode. It was in the goodnights, not a sketch. There ya go :-) And by the way, Charles Rocket isn't dead.  (As far as I know. One of his castmates thinks that just a rumor.)


 * I'm afraid that the news disagrees with you: Ex-'SNL' Comedian's Death Ruled a Suicide I've always been disappointed that Charles Rocket's work was not more appreciated.

What is up with the Tribute?
That last paragraph about the Tribute during the SNL Anniversary show is extremely vague. Anyone know enough about it to clear it up?

---If you're referring to the fact that it wasn't even shown on certain affiliate stations, I too would appreciate verification of this. It aired on the Canadian broadcast I saw of it, and given that it was part of the SNL show, I assume it was a mandatory part of the broadcast. It seems highly unlikely that certain affiliates of the show or of NBC would opt not broadcast it, and I cannot find any verification of this. If someone knows about this, please state so explicitly. Wencer 06:59, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

(IchBin 17:39, 25 December 2005 (UTC)) Took out dated CNN coverage link. Article was not found.

thingie
this sentence: that his style on Weekend Update was evidently later adapted by Dennis Miller.)

is it supposed to be adapted, or adopted? If adopted its self-explanatory, but if adapted, then adapted in what way?

I meant adopted.

Cleanup?
I removed the hastily added poem that seemed to just be dropped in there at random and removed the cleanup tag along with it since I presume that it why it was tagged in the first place. If the article had a legitimate reason aside from that for being tagged then someone can retag it at their liberty. 65.145.213.126 05:56, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

photo in infobox
Whenever I put a photo in biography infobox the photo expands and becomes stretched out and fuzzy, is there any way I can fix this? Registered User 92
 * Nevermind, I found a way. Registered User 92

Law & Order: Criminal Intent Appearance
In his last television appearance (Law & Order: Criminal Intent, Season 3, Episode 13) he portrayed 'Donny DePalma', a suicidal bank robber who hatches an elaborate scheme to commit suicide-by-cop because he's avoiding a slow, painful death by prostate cancer. At one point toward the end of the episode, he utters the words: "It's not true; I'm not suicidal!" Does anyone think this is enough of an interesting coincidence to mention in the article? - jibegod 03:04, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Edited out Michael O'Donahue reference
Death is not a race, and the fact that Charles Rocket was the oldest SNL cast member at the time of his death is fact enough. He didn't "beat" Mr. O'Donahue. For that matter, O'Donahue DID beat him by dying chronologically earlier than him! Sorry for the spelling mistakes, if any. -Jkazoo 08:43, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

This article looks like fan memorial page.
I put the NPOV tag. --Spikelee 05:00, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't mind the NPOV tag, because looking at it today, it was a goddamn hatefest.
 * 1) I'm not a fan, but the guy worked, and kept working. He could not have done so if it was as awful as previous editors made out.
 * 2) The article DEFINITELY needs more citations, if only to ward off edit wars.
 * 3) The Suicide section was written by a ghoul; not even to newspaper death announcement standards.
 * 4) The filmography was missing notable work, and some was deliberately delinked.
 * 5) The box office duds (voiceover in Titan A.E., and his supporting role in Fathers' Day) simply could not have been his fault - the wording blamed him explicitly. I hope it's better now.

--Lexein 03:26, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Man, was that rough. Anyways, did some edits, to address POV.   --Lexein 20:55, 15 April 2007 (UTC)


 * I agree with Lexein, needs citations. Specifically, there are direct quotations and no clear sources. Additionally, I removed the "POV" tag (it is not an NPOV tag). The use here is the definition of "Drive-by tagging" which is expressly forbidden on WP:NPOV_dispute. It needs work, and I support the work being done. There are some MINOR issues with POV, but nothing warranting the POV tag. Further use of this tag should adhere to WP:NPOV_dispute guidelines specifically "address the issues on the talk page, pointing to specific issues that are actionable within the content policies." (man I used specific a lot there) DocGratis 14:13, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Death - order
This sentence in the obit is continuing to be edit-warred:
 * "Rocket is the oldest deceased SNL castmember (two years older at death than Michael O'Donoghue), the first deceased SNL castmember who did not work under Lorne Michaels, and the first Weekend Update anchor to pass away."

I've moved it here for discussion. There seems to be some joy for some editors in chronicling the exact order of die-off for participants in any popular entertainment medium. I don't understand it, but I've noticed it. --Lexein 20:58, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Moved deleted section here for sourcing
This was deleted, but may merit inclusion once reliably sourced:
 * "Charles Rocket was also the support act for The Plasmatics at The Dr. Pepper Summer Concert Series at Pier 84 in New York City on September 12, 1981, he played the accordian. A photo of him performing can be seen here: http://www.barryyphotos.com/p522516898 (photo by me, Stefan Sonic). This entry by Stefan Sonic."

I've requested that the IP user (Stefan Sonic?) make the photo available on Flickr licensed as Creative Commons, or release it explicitly CC-BY-SA 3.0 to Wikipedia via OTRS. We can't provide photo credit in the article, but do so wherever possible at Commons. --Lexein (talk) 15:08, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

Filmography format
Compare the format in the "John Dye" article (and others) that lists both the roles and where applicable the tv episodes. With all the resources on the web to actually watch old tv programs, it would seem that would be a more helpful listing.Mannanan51 (talk) 21:25, 20 July 2012 (UTC)mannanan51