Talk:Charles Rolls

"The first Briton killed in a flying accident"
This statement is not true. The gliding pioneer Percy Pilcher died in 1899 and is thus the first Briton to die in a flying accident. The statement might be amended to read "first Briton killed in powered flight" as opposed to Pilcher who was killed when the tail broke off his glider. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.148.46.166 (talk) 02:19, 18 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Agree, the sentence is not referenced but the Times described him as "the tenth airman who has met a fatal accident in a motor-driven flying machine, and he is the first Englishman who has sacrificed his life in the cause of modern aviation". The article says he is the eleventh does anybody have a reliable source for that, the Times has:


 * 1) Lieutenant Selfridge, at Washington, 11 September 1908
 * 2) M. Lefebvre, at Juvisy, 7 September 1909
 * 3) Captain Ferber, at Boulognem 22 September 1909
 * 4) Senor Fernandez, at Nice, 6 December 1909
 * 5) M. Delgrange, at Pau, 4 January 1910
 * 6) M. Le Blon, at San Sebastian, 2 April 1910
 * 7) M. Michelin, at Lyons, 13 May 1910
 * 8) Herr Thaddeus Robl, at Stettin, 18 June 1910
 * 9) M. Charles Wachter, at Rheims, 4 july 1910

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Infobox person in place of Infobox engineer
Infobox engineer was used from 2007. Since 2007 infoboxes have developed and now Infobox engineer displays a note automatically (cannot be controlled by an ordinary editor) and it described this playboy as an engineer.

I have changed infobox to remove that particular description and replaced it with the description of him given by the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography: Motor car promoter and aviator — which also happens to fit with his description in the article's leading paragraph. Eddaido (talk) 13:30, 15 May 2018 (UTC)