Talk:Charles Taylor (North Carolina politician)

Initial discussion
Article has a clearly admiring tone toward Rep. Taylor. See the extended quote from the Citizen Times. I don't know if the facts are out of order, but the tone should be corrected.

LegCircus 22:48, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

Oh, it looks like previously the page had been primarily criticisms of Taylor and somebody decided that erasing all the criticism and writing a bunch of praise would make the article more "balanced."

LegCircus 23:06, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

Also, references to his CAFTA vote seem to have been excised. Whether or not you agree with the legislation, it made minor headlines earlier this year when he cried on the House floor after Tom DeLay twisted his arm to vote YEA on the bill. This was the impetus for Washington Redskins quarterback Heath Shuler to go for his seat in the 2006 midterm elections -- another fact which is suspiciously omitted.

AnthonySF 21:44, 22 October 2005


 * I've removed the extended quote, but left mention of it and the link in place. 68.39.174.238 23:58, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Removing the negatives
70.109.203.236 said, in his edit summary: ''Entry had been edited to be heavily biased against Taylor. Added edits based largely on more unbiased and less opionated content from http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Charles_Taylor)''

I'd revert the entire edit except that some information was added and I agree that it should be there. I note the following in explaining why I'm putting BACK most of the stuff that was deleted: John Broughton 12:40, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
 * The edit shows its bias by including the one favorable thing (Taylor's actions on "Rubbergate") twice.
 * The goal of wikipedia is NOT to have balanced articles. If a person does a lot of newsworthy things that people consider bad (say, Jack Abramoff), then the article should reflect that.  If Taylor has done a lot of good things that aren't mentioned, then the solution is to add them, not to delete objective, verifiable but negative information.
 * The goal of wikipedia is not to limit itself to material in sourcewatch.org, and sourcewatch.org in no way is a model for what wikipedia should be.
 * The article is clearly too short now, and pretty bland (a list of committees that Taylor was on - important??), yet another reason why it's biased to remove so much material.
 * This is the only contribution to wikipedia to date by the anonymous user.

Article in WSJ
Today on Chuck Taylor. If only I kud reed -- Kendrick7 15:05, 11 October 2006 (UTC)


 * That would be the one titled "Seat in Congress Helps Mr. Taylor Help His Business: Lawmaker Pushes Earmarks For Projects Near His Land; He Says District Benefits". John Broughton  |  Talk 17:46, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Note to 69.249.253.211
Please refrain from undoing other people's edits repeatedly. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia under the three-revert rule, which states that nobody may revert a single page more than three times in 24 hours. (Note: this also means editing the page to reinsert an old edit. If the effect of your actions is to revert back, it qualifies as a revert.) Thank you.


 * This IP has been editing political articles with the aim of eliminating any negative comments/facts regarding Republican candidates. Viewing 69.249.253.211's edit history would show this.Thesilence 20:16, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Criticism missing
After not seeing this page for several years, I came back and found it lacking significant information relevant to his performance, actions, and public opinion. The section on environment, for example, gives the impression that he was environmentally friendly, and omits the Wiki-worthy nickname Taylor earned: "Chainsaw Charlie." On the whole, it seems as though the article was washed, leaving behind a boring list of affiliations while failing to inform the audience of the man, the politics, and the controversies. It didn't even mention the campaign promises he made during his unsuccessful re-election campaign that he would deliver millions of dollars to UNC–Asheville if he won. Mention his victories and successes (many of which are missing), but also the less pleasant (and equally relevant) facts. Too much is missing on both sides. I guess my question is, did I miss something, or was this just the result of vandalism over the years? TEPutnam (talk) 00:26, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

POV
Stating that the "wise use" movement is "anti-environment" is POV> This is a widely-held opinion but nontheless a biased one; the comments in this section are not, as crrently headed, outside the scope of the article, but rather editorializing and POV. 75.201.91.33 (talk) 02:55, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you for pointing that out. You're right. I went in and cleaned up the section some to try to make it more neutral and took out inline external link to open source/user-edited site. That shouldn't have been included in the first place. Definitely editorializing. Hope this is a little better. I'm sure the rest of the article needs work as well. Will see what I can do if I have time. Thank you. -- JoannaSerah (talk) 15:30, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

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