Talk:Charlie McCreevy

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How would we go about getting a mugshot to scare people? zoney ♣ talk 16:55, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)


 * I sent a request to the WebMaster at finance.gov.ie! -- Rye1967 00:56, Oct 20, 2004 (UTC)


 * OK, I got a 1mb bitmap from them. It needs re-sizing etc.  I don't have the software. Can someone who has email me. Also posted on the notice board.  PS: I didnt ask for a scary shot, but they must've see this request.  He's positively glowering. -- Rye1967 22:49, Oct 20, 2004 (UTC)


 * We could do with some more on his republican background. His mother, Eileen Mills, came from a strongly republican background; his uncle Peter Mills served time on the prison ships. Charlie referred to this in an RTE interview over the holidays when asked why he had not joined the PDs. Filiocht 10:57, Jan 24, 2005 (UTC)

A rhetorical disaster? Wow. Looks like random B-grade speech writer stuff, not oops-I-started-a-war material to me. Is there any evidence that it was a disaster? pde 11:21, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC)


 * It doesn't look like it warrants quite that phrase, but I do not doubt that even a secondary school student (who is good at English) could write a better speech! D-minus grade I think! zoney &#09827; talk 12:00, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC)

This guy gives five speeches a day... amazing! See: http://ec.europa.eu/internal_market/whatsnew_en.htm

I'm removing some of the citation-needed stuff as it's all out there on the web and non-contentious. Come down here to Kildare and ask people what they think; many referred to him in the 1990s as 'The Real Taoiseach'. I know his diction isn't D4 or media-savvy but that adds to his popularity. His courageous and in hindsight accurate opposition to Squire Haughey in 1982 set him up for life.Red Hurley 12:06, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

This guy is evil [citing the request to extend copyright to 95 years, and hide banks fron scrutinity]. Can we mark him as such? Add a tag "EVIL" ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.207.162.102 (talk) 07:28, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Must cite Sources
Citation is a principle of Wikipedia. Otherwise it is POV. If it is all out there, please link to it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.46.247.133 (talk • contribs) 11:15, 13:01, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Tidied up by using list-defined references. I suggest that any long citations be placed in the Reflist. - Diffly (talk) 17:11, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

McCreevy's medical card for over 70s
Leaving aside his deals with the bookies, Punchestown Racecourse and many other vested interests, this is the man, this is the man, who first gave a medical card without means test to all senior citizens over 70 in his 2001 Budget. After he publicly announced it the Irish government began negotiations with the Irish Medical Organisation, the representatives of general practitioners, on the cost of it- yes, after it was announced. Unfuckingbelievable. But it gets better. The Irish Medical Organisation did not want the government paying for Senior Citizens over 70 and said the money would be better spent elsewhere. Senior Citizens, however, are high voters so McCreevy was trying to win their vote in the subsequent election. And the best has yet to come. The state paid every general practitioner/medical doctor of senior citizens over 70 who were on the medical card before 70, as a result of being on low incomes or on social welfare (i.e. "means tested" medical cards), between €36 and €171 for each of these people the doctor saw every year. However, for these new senior citizens who were not means tested, and were probably in the majority of cases financially better off, the Irish state under this Charlie McCreevy paid €462 for every single one of these new, well-off over 70s. So the state, thanks to this idiot, paid between €36 and €171 for a 73-year-old man poor enough to be under the old scheme, and paid €462 for a 73-year-old man wealthy enough to be under the new scheme. They received precisely the same treatment. As for fulfilling wikipedia's need for citations, read all of the above here: http://www.herald.ie/national-news/budget-2009/shocking-uturn-on-over70s-medical-card-is-total-fiasco-1499219.html. This guy is a fucking idiot; in fact he is king of the world's idiots. He, along with Mary Harney, represents so much of what is ugly about Irish society. It is an embarrassment that he is our representative in the European Commission. He is the nearest thing Ireland has ever produced to a eurosceptic, and he is by any standards a barely-intelligible first-rate mumbling troglodyte. In typical Irish fashion, he is only in the European Commission because he was posing a threat to the serving Taoiseach and was accordingly shifted out of government and off to Europe. You couldn't invent this stuff. You really could not invent it. 86.42.115.6 (talk) 15:45, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Very interesting but your language belongs on a blog not wikipedia.86.42.216.196 (talk) 22:14, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Well, I agree, he was the worst finance minister Ireland ever had and now he gets appointed to boards of Directors - not only Ryanair ( who like to pay minimum wage to their employees ), he was also on the board of directors of a private hospital - after giving them tax breaks as minister of finance. What this article is missing is information on all the directorships he is currently on. tko — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.234.70.92 (talk) 17:22, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

Lisbon 2008
I've grouped the material with citations. Mr Schultz should have ensured that the treaty was legibly drafted in the first place.86.42.216.196 (talk) 22:14, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Overall bias
This seems like a fairly poorly sourced and moderately biased article (a claim not exactly dispelled by this talk page). There's a lot of criticism without much support, and significant parts of the article come across as more of an editorial against him than a non-POV article. See especially the unsupported and tendentious references to "give-away budget" and lack of tax individualisation, the claim that he's the "worst finance minister" ever for Ireland, the gossip about not judging audiences well (for a single minor speech? who cares?), the unsupported claim that copyright extension is harmful to consumers (it might increase production of consumable material, and this is not the place to have that fight), the confusing Northern Rock section, and the gossip-like misinterpretations of a claim that no sane person would read a legalistic document. I am not Irish (or a citizen of an EU country), so I have no dog in this fight; this is simply a disappointing article. Talk readers, please adjust this article, or respond in Talk here to my concerns; or I may in the near future do a bit of culling from this poor biographical entry.


 * I've made many of the changes I suggested above. I took out the entire half-paragraph on tax individualization, which, in addition to being without citation or link, was so confusingly written that I could not tell if it was an attack on McCreevy, a support of him, or indeed what the issue was at all.  This is still a bit of a hit piece, but at least more of the criticisms have citations now.  Generally, this article needs about fifteen or so additional references for context to a relatively major international figure.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Seanose (talk • contribs) 12:58, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

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