Talk:Charm (programming language)

Requested move

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The result of the move request was: page moved. Breawycker (talk to me!) 23:34, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

Charm (language) → Charm (programming language) – Other programming languages listed on Wikipedia have names which are generally followed by (programming language) rather than (language). Hannibal6912 (talk) 18:50, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support. Although it goes against WP:PRECISION, it makes sense to add "programming", both for consistency with other similar articles and due to language by itself being ambiguous. Jenks24 (talk) 05:24, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support per nom.-- — ZjarriRrethues — talk 13:49, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support. Nom is correct that (programming language) is the more common diambiguation phrase.  Msnicki (talk) 14:39, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
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Notability
The citations are a bit misleading, at least as regards notability. I have a copy of Aho and Ullman, Principles of Compiler Design (the "dragon book", for its cover), and there is certainly no mention of Charm anywhere in there. I doubt there's any mention of Charm in the other Aho et al compiler text or in the ARM assembly language programming manual, either. Who knows what Stephen Wade decided in the June 1996, Acorn User Magazine article, "Charm or trinket?" But apparently even he thought that was a good question.

To establish notability, WP:GNG asks for significant coverage from reliable WP:RS independent WP:INDY sources. If better sources can't be provided, the article should be deleted. The PDF of the Acorn User article is pretty good evidence of notability. Msnicki (talk) 19:36, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Request for notability
I am able to provide a two page scanned PDF document containing the Charm review from the June 1996 edition of Acorn User magazine if this helps establish notability, though I do not know how to make this available to Wikipedia reviewers. The magazine ceased distribution soon afterwards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hannibal6912 (talk • contribs) 13:04, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Upload on a site like scribd.com and link it Actually AU has been archived, so you can find it here(although if it hasn't been uploaded, bring a scribd copy).-- — ZjarriRrethues — talk 13:50, 29 May 2011 (UTC)


 * I looked at that page myself, yesterday, hoping to find the article. Unfortunately, it looks like they only have a scan of cover for that issue.  But as you say, if Hannibal6912 has a PDF, perhaps he could upload it to the 8bs.com site that's collecting Acorn User scans or to a more general site, like scribd.com, as you suggested.  To answer Hannibal's question, yes, this would definitely help towards establishing notability.  Whether it's enough to clear the bar depends on what's in the article.  Msnicki (talk) 14:09, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

You can now find the review at:

http://www.scribd.com/fullscreen/56583477?access_key=key-zgxmagw52iqdgww9ylo

Hope that helps! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hannibal6912 (talk • contribs) 14:48, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Sorry ... the newbie forgot the tildas on the last post Hannibal6912 (talk) 14:58, 29 May 2011 (UTC)


 * That helps A LOT. That's a much better article than I expected.  It's over 1600 words and it is all and only about Charm.  A second source would be "nice to have" but this one is good enough that I expect most editors would be pretty satisfied, especially for an article on an historical software topic.  Msnicki (talk) 15:04, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Charm++
Is there any connection with Charm++? --Trevj (talk) 21:02, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

The short answer is apart from the name - no. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hannibal6912 (talk • contribs) 16:51, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

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