Talk:Cheekface/GA1

GA review
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Reviewer: Trainsandotherthings (talk · contribs) 14:56, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

Hi there, I'll be reviewing this article. From a quick readthrough I don't see any glaring issues; I would be concerned about notability if it weren't for the Alternative Press profile. I anticipate completing this by Monday. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 14:56, 24 March 2023 (UTC) (Criteria marked are unassessed) Prose comments
 * 1) It is reasonably well written.
 * a. (prose, spelling, and grammar):
 * A few minor points, and one blatant grammatical issue. Nothing that can't be fixed easily. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 23:15, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
 * b. (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
 * Nothing here that would be a GA concern. FA reviewers might nitpick some things, but that's beyond my scope here as GA reviewer. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 23:15, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
 * 1) It is factually accurate and verifiable.
 * a. (reference section):
 * References format looks good, no issues with citation formatting. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 15:02, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
 * b. (citations to reliable sources):
 * All sources are reliable, predominantly reputable online music publications. Checked WP:RSP and none came up as unreliable. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 15:02, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
 * c. (OR):
 * Since it supports so much of the article, I gave reference 3 (Alternative Press) a read (interesting article!) and confirmed it backs up everything cited to it. Ditto for reference 7. I'd do a more formal spotcheck for a longer article, but for this one I believe this is sufficient. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 23:15, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
 * d. (copyvio and plagiarism):
 * Earwig check came back clean, and there are no offline sources. I also took a read of reference 3, which supports much of the article, and confirmed no copying or close paraphrasing. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 23:15, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
 * 1) It is broad in its coverage.
 * a. (major aspects):
 * I'm being a bit nitpicky here, but there's almost no coverage of any of the band's songs, and several references (3 and 7 are ones I checked) do discuss them. I think key singles should at least get a brief mention. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 23:15, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
 * b. (focused):
 * Article gives a proper encyclopedic overview of the band without getting bogged down in detail. If anything, it could be expanded a bit more. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 23:15, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
 * 1) It follows the neutral point of view policy.
 * Fair representation without bias:
 * Having read the entire article, no concerns about neutrality. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 22:56, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
 * 1) It is stable.
 * No edit wars, etc.:
 * Stable edit history. Last edits were in early December. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 15:02, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
 * 1) It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
 * a. (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales):
 * Two images, both properly licensed, as verified by a quick check of both sources. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 15:02, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
 * b. (appropriate use with suitable captions):
 * Captions are good, alt text already provided. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 15:02, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass/fail:
 * Placing on hold so the nominator has time to address my comments. This is close to GA status! Trainsandotherthings (talk) 23:15, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Stable edit history. Last edits were in early December. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 15:02, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
 * 1) It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
 * a. (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales):
 * Two images, both properly licensed, as verified by a quick check of both sources. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 15:02, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
 * b. (appropriate use with suitable captions):
 * Captions are good, alt text already provided. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 15:02, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass/fail:
 * Placing on hold so the nominator has time to address my comments. This is close to GA status! Trainsandotherthings (talk) 23:15, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass/fail:
 * Placing on hold so the nominator has time to address my comments. This is close to GA status! Trainsandotherthings (talk) 23:15, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Placing on hold so the nominator has time to address my comments. This is close to GA status! Trainsandotherthings (talk) 23:15, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Cheekface formed in Los Angeles in 2017 with the recruitment of Edwards, whom Katz was familiar with Edwards from the city's music scene. Either change to "with the recruitment of Edwards, whom Katz was familiar with from the city's music scene" or split this into two sentences. This isn't grammatically correct as written.
 * While not expecting an enthusiastic response to their music, in 2019 while playing a set at The Satellite in Los Angeles, Katz was startled when a small group of attendees sang along to every word in one of the band's tracks, temporarily causing him to forget his own lyrics for several lines. This is a run-on sentence; please either use a semicolon or split it into two sentences for better readability.
 * In January 2021, the band released its second album, Emphatically No., and later in the year they released an EP of B-sides from that record, titled Emphatically Mo'. Suggest shortening as "In January 2021, the band released its second album, Emphatically No., followed by an EP of B-sides from that record, titled Emphatically Mo'."
 * Be consistent about including or not including the period in "Emphatically No.", you don't use it in the sentence after you introduce the album.
 * In August 2022 the band released their third album, Too Much to Ask, after announcing it only to fans via postcards sent the month before. This is rather awkwardly written, try "In August 2022, after teasing the album to fans via postcards, the band released their third album Too Much to Ask."
 * In a 2022 review, Chris Deville compared Who is Chris Deville? Previously, you mention that Zach Schonfeld was covering the band for Alternative Press, so you should mention Deville was writing in Stereogum.
 * The discography section doesn't give any distinctions between full albums, EPs, and the live album. Suggest adding some basic information about each album for the table beyond just release date. At minimum, distinguish between LPs, EPs, and the live album. Also, I don't see any singles listed, should those be included? Trainsandotherthings (talk) 22:56, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Having read through reference 3, I would like to see the article expanded a bit more. That source talks about the band's singles, which largely aren't covered in the Wikipedia article. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 23:15, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for this review ! I'm still working through the comments but should be able to finish addressing them sometime this week. I think most everything is done now except adding text about singles and reformatting the discography section. —&#8288;Collint c 14:24, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for letting me know. Give me a ping when you're all done. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 14:52, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Hey ! I believe I've addressed all these points but do let me know if there's anything else that could be improved. Thanks again for the review. —&#8288;Collint c 20:41, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Looks good, I'm going to pass the review now. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 23:33, 30 March 2023 (UTC)