Talk:Chef's knife

Carbon Steel
(sigh) This article incorporates the same nonsense as the earlier article it was split off from. There are no alloys of Iron and Carbon with more than 4% carbon. Zero. Nada. This is due to the solublity of Carbon in Iron. Carbon is not highly soluble in Iron. At concentrations of greater than about 4% you get little chunks of pure carbon precipitating as the alloy solidifies. Alloys with concentrations of greater than 2% carbon are considered high carbon steel. -- Geo Swan 17:45, 28 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the correction, Geo. I think that I'm the one who originally put in the high number. I copied it straight out of one of the reference, though I never actually believed it.


 * BTW, an anonymous IP address changed "rolled steel" to "conical steel". Any chance that you know what "conical steel" is?


 * DanielVonEhren 16:09, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

Kitchen Knife article
I think that much of the content in this article belongs in Kitchen knife, such as materials. Actually, there really isn't anything after the intro paragraph that is specific to a chef's knife. I am happy to do this if someone gives me a thumbs up, as I am going to make some significant changes to the kitchen knife article in the near future. -- Chris 08:24, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

Please do. Not only does that stuff belong somewhere else, most of it is wrong or irrelevent. I'm tempted to edit it, but it is way too wrong for me to bother. When you do correct it, the Japanese equivalent of a Western chef's knife is a gyuto, not a santoku.



The Santoku section doesn't belong here. A santoku is not a chef's knife; it's a small, multipurpose knife used in Japan mostly by housewives. However, there is a Japanese version of the Western chef's knife called a Gyuto, which deserves mention ... these are being used by professional chefs all over the world. They have a unique shape much closer to the French pattern chef's knife than the Geman pattern; they tend to be made from more advanced steels than European knives, and to have blades that are thinner, lighter, able to take and hold a sharper edge, and also tend to more fragile than their Euro counterparts.

A good reference would be Chad Ward's book, "An Edge in the Kitchen." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.23.89.214 (talk) 02:56, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

You are totally  wrong,  a Gyuto, is based   on the  western  Chefs  Knife  but  is not a true Japanese  Chefs knife. The Santoku is  classed  and seen  as The Japanese  Chefs Knife. There are  many  sources   ti back this  up. And The  Santoku  is becoming  more and  mire popular  as  a Chefs  knife now in the  West. The Article  aslo  did  not t  mention  the  Chinese  Chefs  Knife which  is  totally  different. TioRi (talk) 23:22, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

"only a small amount of carbon"
I believe that steels like 440 C and the exotic 440 V have considerably more carbon than "carbon" steel does. I myself use the term "rustable steel" to avoid this confusion.

"Stamped blades tend to be inferior to forged knives."
I've removed that statement. The quality of the blade is largely due to the heat treatment, and stamped blades are of course, heat treated, just like forged blades. Rather than repeat what's been said elsewhere, I urge you to read this article, if you feel that forging is superior to stock removal.

This doesn't specifically cover stamped knife-blades, but it boils down to the same comparison. http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_groundpound.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 170.131.131.253 (talk) 23:43, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

History of Chef Knife
The history should be corrected on the page. It was Chicago Cutlery that first created the "Chef's Knife". There is much history about Chicago Cutlery that for the most part has been forgotten. German Wustoff Chef's knives were the first Chef's knives to be imported to America to compete with Chicago Cutlery (At a lower price point at the time). Wustoff refined the Chef's knife in some ways, but in other ways made their Chef's knives unique in the marketplace at the time.

It is important for history to be accurate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RPMoore04 (talk • contribs) 01:40, 4 June 2019 (UTC)