Talk:Cheri Elliott

biostub tag
Why is there a cyclingbio-stub tag on this article? Is there some reason I don't know about? JFPerry 01:27, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Wiki Verification policy and date of Girls Pro class establishment
Yes there was a pro class during Cheri Elliott's career. She retired after the 1985 season. During the 1985 season the Pro Girls class was established in the NBL and as I mentioned before, Cheri did race in NBL events prior to her retirement in early 1986. Kathy Schachel was the first NBL No.1 Pro girl in 1985 (and the first girl to hold a pro title in any BMX organization). She repeated in 1986 and Gaby Bayhi won the title in 1987. Then the NBL ended it due to lack of participation until the 1997 season and Michelle Cairns won the title. You can verify the existence of a girls pro class in the October 1985 issue of BMX Plus! on page 41 in the race results of the coverage of the 1985 Team Murry World Cup of BMX IV. Tammy Willever won and received $90 Jennie Zeuner came in second and got $45 and Jeannie Robertson got third place money at $16. I am sure there are earlier mentions in BMX Plus! and other publications but this is the best I can come up with on short notice.

The point is that while Cheri did not race in the pro class and probably couldn't due to her age-I think you had to be at least 16 years old to become a pro girl and she was about to turn 16 when she retired in early 1986-there was a girls pro class during her career. If she wanted to she could had stuck around another year and raced pro.

Also, you can't site a E-mail source you have to cite a source independent of that. I know, that may sound odd if it is really you Ms. Elliott editing your own entry in wiki, but those are the rules since an independent user of Wiki cannot verify that it is you despite the e-mail address. That could or could not be your E-mail address. You have to cite a source independent of yourself like a hard copy publication or a website other than your own. Again, I know it seems strange if it is really you contributing to your own write up, but I and other editors have to maintain the standard of using sources other than the editor. Otherwise, anybody can say anything in Wiki and there has been a few scandals involving Wikipedia for just that. One has to cite independent sources For instance I cannot use any of my own research as a cite in wiki. By my own research is me conducting my own interviews or experiments. Such things are by nature unverifiable in a reasonably convenient way, hence the rules on Citing sources:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citing_sources

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Verifiability

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources

Again, you must cite a source independent of yourself, just like you cited the November 1989 issue ofAmerican BMXer about Cheri's-perhaps your-reason for racing the 1989 ABA Grand National. I will check my own copy. You see, I was a racer in the ABA myself from 1982 to 1989. I started racing when I was 19. I wasn't much good since I never made it out of 17 & over intermediate, but I got a few wins. I was forced to retire too when my track Braddock Raceway in North Bergen, New Jersey shut down after the 1989 season. Didn't have a ride to any other track since I didn't have a car and no one else was into BMX. I previously rode my race bike from the Bronx, New York where I lived to the track and back! After hoping for three years that Braddock would reopen or a new track would open up close to my home and it didn't happen, I officially retired in 1992. :-(

Anyway, any MTB publications the equivalent of BMX Action, BMX Plus!, Super BMX & Freestyle et. al. that you can cite the mention of Cheri's (your?)injuries? Perhaps those MTB publications you list in the BMX & MTB press section?

If it is really Cheri Elliott editing the page, the BMX world lost a lot when you quit!

Hunter2005 20:01, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Cheri Elliott says thanks
Hey Hunter! Cheri Elliott, here! Thanks so much for all your beautiful writing. I just now figured out how to talk to you in this "disscussion board." Thanks for referring to that in your last HISTORY entry. Truly, I'm so incredibly impressed with all the information. Heck, a lot of it I had even forgot about. Let me know if you need anything from me... photos, other articles, or copies of them. Just know I'm here for you if you need more stuff. Also, your last revision is very nice. Thanks. ; o ) I'm very honored to be a part of Wikipedia. April 30, 2006.

Oct. 5, 2008. Hi Hunter! Cheri here. = ) It's amazing how you have built this page over these years. I'm so honored, truly. You really have done some great work.  I wanted to help a little on some accuracies so the page stays true. Today, someone let me know that the Wikipedia page had me racing BMX after 1989???  Those sole two 1989 races (Fall Nationals & Grand Nationals) that I came back for 'for fun' for the Hall of Fame Induction were the only two BMX races I ever raced during my retirement.. ever. Just so you know first hand from me, I never raced BMX again after the 1989 Grands.  For some reason there is a reference of my having BMX points in Feb of 1990?  If that is the case, someone unethically used my name for points (or maybe for some sort of prank?) Nonetheless, to keep your Wikipedia page as accurage as possible, I retired in January of 1986.  I came back 'for fun' in 1989 for the Fall Nationals & the Grand Nationals solely because I was being inducted into the Hall of Fame at the Grand Nationals. So, why not race as well since I was required to be at the Grands to receive the award? The Fall Nationals were just a practice fot the Grands. I couldn't just show up at the Grands to race after 4 years of not touching a BMX bike. There was no 'coming out of retirement.' Those two races were for fun only, and those were the only two races I ever raced in retirement. These are the facts.

Thanks again, Hunter! Amazing job. Huge honor. = ) ... Yours truly, Cheri Elliott. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tbird77 (talk • contribs) 22:10, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Cheri Elliott - Career Highlights
2001

 World Cup (MTB) #4 (Durango, Colorado, USA)  Dual Slalom - 6th place  MTB National Championship Series #3 (Deer Valley, Utah)  Downhill - 10th place  MTB National Championship Series #1 (Big Bear Lake, CA)  Downhill - 10th place  Sea Otter MTB  Downhill - 9th place </UL> </UL>
 * Mammoth, CA: Injury crash, forced retirement.

2000

<UL> <LI><STRONG>NCS DS MTB Points - 1st place</STRONG> <LI><STRONG>NCS DH MTB Points - 7th place</STRONG> <LI>NCS DS #5 (Mammoth Mtn, CA) - 2nd place <LI>NCS DH #5 (Mammoth Mtn, CA) - 8th place <LI>NCS DS #4 (Crystal Mtn, WA) - 2nd place <LI>NCS DH #4 (Crystal Mtn, WA) - 10th place <LI>NCS DH #3 (Deer Valley, UT) - 3rd place <LI>NCS DS #3 (Deer Valley, UT) - 3rd place <LI>NCS DS #2 (Mount Snow, VT) - 1st place <LI>NCS DS #1 (Snow Summit, CA) - 1st place <LI>NCS DH #1 (Snow Summit, CA) - 5th place <LI>Sea Otter Classic DS (Monterey, CA - 3rd place        <LI>Sea Otter Classic DH (Monterey, CA - 8th place </UL>

1999

<UL> <LI>World Cup DH #6 (Mont-Ste-Anne, Quebec) - 9th place <LI>NCS DH #4 (Deer Valley, Utah) - 2nd place <LI>NCS DH #3 (Mammoth Lakes, California) - 3rd place <LI>World Cup DH #5 (Squaw Valley, CA, USA) - 7th place <LI>World Cup DH #4 (Snow Summit, CA, USA) - 8th place <LI>NCS DH #2 (Seven Springs, Pennsylvania) - 8th place <LI>NCS DH #1 (Snow Summit, CA, USA) - 8th place </UL>

1998

<UL> <LI><STRONG>World DH MTB Championships - 3rd place</STRONG> <LI><STRONG>National DH Championhip Series Points - 2nd place</STRONG> <LI><STRONG>National DS Championship Series Points - 1st place</STRONG> <LI>NCS DH #6 (Mount Snow, Vermont) - 2nd place <LI>NCS DS #6 (Mount Snow, Vermont)- 1st place <LI>NCS DH #4 (Park City, Utah) - 2nd place <LI>NCS DS #4 (Park City, Utah) - 2nd place <LI>NCS DH #3 (Mammoth Lakes, California) - 1st place <LI>NCS DS #3 (Mammoth Lakes, California) - 4th place <LI>World Cup DH #4 (Big Bear Lake, CA, USA) - 3rd place <LI>NCS DH #2 (Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania) - 2nd place <LI>NCS DS #2 (Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania) - 2nd place <LI>World Cup DH #1 (Cape Town, South Africa) - 9th place <LI>World Cup DS #1 (Cape Town, South Africa) - 3rd place </UL>

1997

<UL> <LI><STRONG>National Championhip Series Points - 1st place</STRONG> <LI>NCS DH #6 (Park City, Utah) - 1st place <LI>NCS DS #6 (Park City, Utah) - 2nd place <LI>NCS DH #5 (Seattle, Washington) - 2nd place <LI>NCS DS #5 (Seattle, Washington) - 3rd place <LI>NCS DH #4 (Mammoth Lakes, California) - 2nd place <LI>NCS DS #4 (Mammoth Lakes, California) - 2nd place <LI>World Cup DH #4 (Mont-Ste-Anne, Canada) - 4th place <LI>World Cup DS #4 (Mont-Ste-Anne, Canada) - 3rd place <LI>NCS DH #3 (Mount Snow, Vermont) - 8th place <LI>NCS DS #3 (Mount Snow, Vermont)- 2nd place <LI>NCS DH #1 (Big Bear Lake, California) - 2nd place <LI>NCS DS #1 (Big Bear Lake, California) - 2nd place </UL>

JFPerry 22:07, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks for this listing Perry. I will find a way to incorporate it properly into the article at a future date-when I know how to do that that is :-) Hunter2005 23:05, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Jill Kitner & Cheri Elliott
Let's not get into the same disscussions as before (re. Shanaze Reade). It was agreed by several administrators that the format was not suitable for Reade, the same rules of thumb should be applied to other pages. I did not "remove" infomation as you put it, but simply merged the bullets into prose and slit the article into sensible sections. Obviously, more work was needed but it was a start. Thaf (talk) 13:35, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

NPOV
This entire article needs to be rewritten to comply WP:NPOV.--Woland (talk) 21:20, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I hope you'll find the recent copy-edit satisfactory.

Copy edit
I performed the long-requested copy edit of this article. Among the changes made: The article still has some places where it could use citations. As this is a BLP, it is very important that any quotation be sourced, and that any potentially contentious information be sourced. I would also recommend that the injury data be converted to prose form and put into the body of the article.// ⌘macwhiz (talk) 04:14, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Various statements that were contrary to WP:NPOV were removed.
 * The sections were moved around to better conform with MOS:BIO and WP:LAYOUT.
 * Some information was reorganized to better fit the chronological flow of the article.
 * Where I could find online sources for some references, I updated them with appropriate links using citation templates.
 * Some statements that were potentially contentious and uncited were removed per WP:BLP.
 * Various formatting adjustments.
 * Fixed the "Career BMX milestones" table to remove extra rows and columns.
 * Moved "Mountain Bike Racing Career Milestones" to table form, to match the BMX milestones.
 * Removed external links that failed WP:ELNO.
 * Moved the further reading stuff into the appropriate section in the order specified by WP:LAYOUT.
 * And, of course, the usual grammar fixes.

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