Talk:Cherimoya

bottoms up?
say, what do they call that wine that is made from the cherimoya? also, does anyone on this site know how to brew this?

Ortographical mistake
It's "Chirimoya" not "Cherimoya" but the main title cannot be changed to proerp spelling —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.48.226.60 (talk • contribs)


 * Depends on what language you are using. In English, Cherimoya is the usual spelling; in Spanish, Chirimoya. - MPF 22:00, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Typological mistake
Trace metals (sic)minerals Miss B.Liver (talk) 14:41, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

Native land
The current revision says:

"Cherimoya is . . . native to the Andean-highland valleys of Peru, Ecuador, Colombia, Argentina, Chile and Bolivia. Although it is widely popular in Chile, Cherimoya is not native to that area."

This does not make sense.

What is reality here?

--Lmbstl 13:49, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

A bit of Grave-digging here, but maybe they meant that the fruit didn't originally grow in Chile, and was imported?

Albino Bebop (talk) 22:42, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

As far as I'm aware, and I have studied the fruit and its origins fairly intensely, it's native to the high Andean valleys in Ecuador, Peru, and Bolivia. It was spread by commerce to the other countries mentioned above. Chirimoya are not native (ie endemic) to Chile, but they were imported in seed as early as during the Incan period as a trade good.

The lifted lorax (talk) 21:27, 12 May 2008 (UTC) (Ecuador)

Maybe they're widely popular in Chile because they import them from other countries. —MiguelM (talk) 19:33, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

the flower has only three petals
I have a wonderful Cherimoya which has produced fruit for me. The flowers of this tree have only three petals. In addition the CFRG (California Rare Fruit Growers)site has drawings of the flowers with three petals. Once in a while, while hand pollinating these flowers, I have run across a flower with four petals. 69.224.190.233 01:23, 23 February 2007 (UTC)George69.224.190.233 01:23, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

The wild ones here in Ecuador have four petals.... Maybe it's an adaptation in your cultivars for lower altitude? The lifted lorax (talk) 21:31, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Cherimoya In vitro Culture - Reference
http://edoc.hu-berlin.de/dissertationen/bridg-hannia-2000-03-24/HTML/index.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.163.214.177 (talk) 20:17, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Cerimoya vs. custard apple
"The name, cherimoya, is sometimes misapplied to the less-esteemed custard apple" http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/morton/cherimoya.html (emphasis added) "Its descriptive English name [custard apple] has been widely misapplied to other species" http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/morton/custard_apple.html --Mmm (talk) 03:16, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

it tastes disgusting,but it is easy to eat. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.223.69.243 (talk) 19:44, 12 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Of course, the Brits are the authorities on tropical fruits. ;) Kortoso (talk) 23:43, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

Can someone verify the toxicity of the skin?
"One should also avoid eating the skin as it may cause paralysis from 4 to 5 hours."

This section needs a citation. I did a look through multiple web sites about the plant and fruit and can find no mention of the toxicity/paralysis nature of the skin of the fruit. Twigs and seeds seem to have several mentions, but the most I can find concerning the skin is that it isn't to be eaten. If this is because it is not edible, than the artical should be updated. If it does have paralytic effects, can someone cite this with a reliable source (preferably academic or scholarly). SmoJoe (talk) 17:31, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Hey, isn't that the fruit they used in The Rundown? Kind of a crappy movie, one of the Rock's earlier ones, but there's a scene where he's fed a fruit that I think resembles a chirimoya, and he becomes paralyzed for several hours.

Can anyone verify? Albino Bebop (talk) 22:45, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Reply:

For evidence of CNS depression, see article "Anxiolytic-like actions of the hexane extract from leaves of Annona cherimolia in two anxiety paradigms: Possible involvement of the GABA/benzodiazepine receptor complex" by Lopez-Rubalcava and colleagues (2006) in Life Sciences.

However, CNS depression activity is not equivalent to toxicity. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.141.120.125 (talk) 01:58, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

I also can't find anything demonstrating that the seeds are particularly toxic, either. None of the chemicals listed are necessarily present in toxic quantities, and all are used in folk medicines - and one is caffeine.  Geofferic T•C ✡  04:00, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

Chilean omission
The Chirimoyas are native from Chile, too. Be careful about that OMISSION, because chileans has a BIG resentment against Chile and they use to go all around the internet trying to claim that this kind of things are THEIR "natural patrimony", but not based in scientific facts, but nationalism.

Check the following links (specially the botanical database) in which I sustain that Chirimoyas are native from Chile, too. Something omitted in this article, which will certainly be use in the future by Peru (the government, politicians, media, etc) to keep claiming that Chile is "stealing" their biological patrimony for producing Chirimoyas (something weird, because several countries produce Chirimoyas but Peru claims only against Chile about the "stealing"... well, as I told, the reason is a pretty old resentment).

And BTW, I'm not sure if the Chirimoyas are native from Bolivia, too (?). At least the botanical database I'm referencing doesn't include Bolivia as a native land for this fruit.

http://www.bioversityinternational.org/Information_Sources/Species_Databases/New_World_Fruits_Database/qryall3.asp?intIDSpecies=86

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annona_cherimola —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.161.92.138 (talk) 06:51, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Excuse me, but this páge is not written by peruvians and/or ecuatorians and what you give us to understand is an opinion that shows more about your own resentments. There are hundreds of web pages that refer to Peru and Ecuador as the country of origin. About your opinion once more, does not reflect neutral one, but an opinion very one-sided towards Chile. If the Chirimoya were native from Chile too, good for them, but if it weren't, you cannot change the facts that you can read in the following links. As for the nationalism you talk about and the fact that peruvians do not use scientific facts, you may want to make a little bit of research yourself and look for other websites that talk about this issue. http://www.mercuriovalpo.cl/site/edic/20021026185421/pags/20021027000251.html

http://www.cherla.com/el-proyecto_es.shtml

http://www.crfg.org/pubs/ff/cherimoya.html

http://www.tradewindsfruit.com/cherimoya.htm —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.244.179.174 (talk) 21:28, 23 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Kudos for this comment! Thank you for not accepting this kind of attitude. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Milamianno22 (talk • contribs) 16:30, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

Merge proposal

 * Merge from Annona cherimola. Common English name; illogical to have two separate articles on the very same species, as we do not have separate articles for Peach and Prunus persica. Badagnani (talk) 22:50, 13 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Merge - strongly agree. Dyanega (talk) 20:22, 27 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Agree. Vmenkov (talk) 10:02, 29 June 2008 (UTC)


 * OK, let's merge. Badagnani (talk) 18:08, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose per WP:NC (flora). --EncycloPetey (talk) 06:39, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose Annona cherimola is where the botanical explanations are, and besides, it is not the only custard-apple bearing tree. If anything, custard apple should be merged into Annona cherimola, but it is notable as a food.  Again, see WP:NC (flora).  We really should have separate articles for peach and prunus persica, by the way, and the pokemon test is far outdated and is moot.  See WP:OSE, as the reason for merging is simply the inverse of it.  Tealwisp (talk) 19:19, 30 November 2008 (UTC)


 * This doesn't make any sense. The cherimoya is a cherimoya, not a custard-apple, and we don't have separate articles for Peach and Prunus persica--one article is sufficient to discuss the tree and its fruits. Badagnani (talk) 19:25, 30 November 2008 (UTC)


 * First off, on the English side of the Atlantic, we call them custard apples. Regardless, it's perfectly acceptable to discuss tree and fruit within one article, but an article on the tree is for the botanical aspects of the tree and its fruit.  The article for fruit is about the fruit as a food, rather than as a botanical subject.  That's why there are two articles, and that's why we should have an article for prunus persica.  Tealwisp (talk) 23:04, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

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