Talk:Chess boxing/Archive 1

Hoax
Oh dear, wikipedia ... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.146.229.237 (talk) 16:48, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, not. Check the sources. 143.92.1.33 (talk) 04:59, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately? What could one possibly have against chessboxing?31.151.234.85 (talk) 22:01, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * It's stupid, for the start.

Old talk
It should be noted that this article has nothing to do with the Wu-Tang Clan single: Da Mystery of Chessboxing.
 * Maybe the Wu-Tang Clan were also inspired by the comic book Froid Équateur which was published one year before the single was released. --GringoInChile 12:47, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Linked to the wu-tang clan single number29  16:07, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * The Time article says RZA of the Wu-Tang Clan is a fan of chess boxing, I think that's relevant. Lampman (talk) 14:10, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Who the heck is Iepe Rubingh? LogicalDash 00:25, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Interesting but I must wonder how popular it really is... I must admit that if it came to town I might watch. Mokru

Number of rounds
How can there be 11 rounds if there can be a total of 24 minutes of chess at 4 minutes per round? Jeremy 07:49, 29 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Only rounds 1, 3, 5, 7, 9 and 11 are chess rounds, making a total of 24 minutes for thew six rounds. Rounds 2, 4, 6, 8 and 10 are boxing rounds only. GringoInChile 11:52, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Added info on the latest ATF - Priest match

The "official rules" link is broken. I do not want to remove as it might be temporary. It should be monitored, however/--204.210.193.197 21:20, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

spin off sports
I found reference to the promoter of this on www.sport.uwa.edu.au/sports_clubs_and_awards/sports_clubs/club_contacts - 34k - His name is Ant (Anthony) Frosh. I followed up the contact, and it is real, although there has been very little success in promotion of concept thus far.
 * Little success at promotion and zero hits in google means that it's non-noteworthy and doesn't belong in Wikipedia. I'm pulling this section from the article until a citation can be provided; I seriously beleive it to be a hoax. GringoInChile 17:38, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

"envisioned in 1992"?
I think it's confusing that the sport was "envisioned" in 1992 when references to it date back earlier than that. It makes it sound as if the sport was created in the comic, when immediately after, it's clear that there are references to the concept that predate the comic.

Also, I think the Wu-Tang song should be referenced here if the movie the mystery of chess boxing is going to be referenced, because the Wu-Tang song is probably based on the movie. Perhaps there should be a new section, Chess boxing in popular culture, and in that section there can be a reference to the movie and the Wu Tang Song. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.99.199.8 (talk • contribs) 20 October 2006

Deleting paragraph 'Rule concerns'
We decided to delete the paragraph `Rule concerns' because what was stated there is simply not true. The paragraph stated that there are concerns, chessboxing would be dominated by boxers with little or no chess skills. All a good boxer needed to do to win, was to only make one move on the chessboard and then wait for the next boxing round.

However, as in any other sport, a chessboxing contestant who is stalling, i.e. not making a move or waiting too long in between moves will be issued a warning by the chess referee. If the contestant continues to stall, he will be disqualified. WCBO 13:45, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

As this particular issue seems to be easily misunderstood, we added a clarifying sentence to the rules. —Preceding unsigned comment added by WCBO (talk • contribs) 14:05, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Deleting paragraph 'incorporating Chess Boxing into the North American mainstream' (chapter: history)
Original text: In America, Hardcore Chess, is a firm that is operated by Charles McCoy. Since January, 2005, they have been researching ways to incorporate Chess Boxing into the North American mainstream. This year, they formally structured their strategy, and have now organized various Chess Boxing events on the East Coast, to coincide with several Chess Boxing products including t-shirts, caps, etc.

We decided to take out this part from the oroginal text because we could not find any references to Hardcore Chess, Mr. McCoy or any chessboxing activities by him or his firm. If anyone knows anything about this, please be so kind to inform us. As far as we know, all chessboxing events worldwide are either produced by, or in assiciation with, the WCBO. WCBO 10:00, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Again: Deleting paragraph 'incorporating Chess Boxing into the North American mainstream' (chapter: history)
Original text: In America, Hardcore Chess is a firm that is operated by Charles McCoy. Since January, 2005, they have been researching ways to incorporate Chess Boxing into the North American mainstream. This year, they formally structured their strategy, and have now organized various Chess Boxing events on the East Coast, to coincide with several Chess Boxing products including t-shirts, caps, etc.

This paragraph reappeared in the chessboxing article. However, we decided to delete it out as we are seriously doubting the relevance of it. No further information can be found that document these events.84.188.233.59 14:30, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Ambiguity in the first paragraph
Right now it reads that matches "have been staged since 2003." This could mean that matches since 2003 have been faked or that matches have been become public sporting events since 2003. Clarity is needed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ljn2024 (talk • contribs) 02:41, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Is 'Required Chess Skill' paragraph required?
It seems that this paragraph is just re-stating what is found in the last line of the introduction. It should probably be removed, and the contents merged with the rest of the article, or used to back up the statements in the introduction. Jonoerik (talk) 00:16, 8 October 2008 (UTC)


 * According to WP:LEAD, the article must re-state what is found in the introduction, because the introduction is meant to summarise the rest of the article. Moreover, "Required Chess Skill" has few to do with the rules of that game or its history, so it cannot go in the other sections. I think the main problem is that this section needs expanding to make it look appropriate. SyG (talk) 06:39, 8 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Makes sense. It wasn't so much that the section repeated information from the introduction (that is indeed how introductions work!), but that it didn't provide much more detail.  As the information can't be merged into the rest of the article, it needs to be expanded a bit.  The referenced news article from the Escapist has more information, along with a source of it's own. Jonoerik (talk) 02:52, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

What about a draw
I find the structure and rules section lacking. What about a draw? Say the chess is drawn in the first 4 minutes they then go on and decide with the boxing taking a 4 minute timeout to do nothing? I assume at the most there can only be 5 rounds of boxing and 6 rounds of chess as a time flag would fall in the 6 chess session. Is this correct? SunCreator (talk) 14:02, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Nothing? Delisting as a GA. SunCreator (talk) 22:41, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
 * 6 Chess sessions at 4 minutes each = 24 minutes. Each player has 12 minutes in speed chess.  So one player would run out of time in the final round, correct. --63.134.147.65 (talk) 16:45, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Question about the rules
I added to this statement:  "If a contestant does not make a move during the chess round, he will be issued a warning by the referee and he must then make a move within the next 10 seconds." I'm not familiar enough with the game to understand what actually happens here: is warning issued after the 3-minute chess round is complete? If so, is the round then extended an additional ten seconds?--otherlleft 11:55, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

B-class review
Following the recent downgrade of this article from GA-class to C-class, I will review this version hereunder against the B-class criteria to see if it can reach the B-class.SyG (talk) 20:42, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

1. The article is suitably referenced, with inline citations where necessary. Although there are a few statements that would gain from an inline reference (e.g. eleven rounds), most of the sentences have appropriate sources. ✅

2. The article reasonably covers the topic, and does not contain obvious omissions or inaccuracies. The History coverage is more than one year obsolete, and does not mention the new World Champion Leo Kraft. A question on the Talk page was left unanswered during two months. There is nothing on the geographical coverage of the sport. ❌

3. The article has a defined structure. It would be good if the Lead would cover the "History" section more appropriately, but not a big deal. ✅

4. The article is reasonably well-written. I do not see anything outrageous there. ✅

5. The article contains supporting materials where appropriate. No problem on that side. ✅

6. The article presents its content in an appropriately accessible way. No problem on that side. ✅

Hence because of point 2 I do not think the article is B-class for now. SyG (talk) 20:42, 19 December 2009 (UTC)