Talk:Chess with different armies

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Original Names
The names of some of the Nutty Knights have changed due to the difficulty of the pronounciation of the original names. While the new names are good enough, does anyone think that the old ones deserve a mention? The original names are printed below, along with a link to Betza's original Nutty Knights page.

Charging Rook = frlRrlbK = Furlrurlbackking

Charging Knight = fhNrlbK = Forfnibackking

Colonel = fhNfrlRK = Forfnifurlrurking


 * The link

Ernest lk lam (talk) 14:22, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

unbalanced
Perhaps this was an inevitable result of playtesting this among masters, who would be more familiar with the orthodox pieces and not maximise the fairy pieces' potential, but every army in the standard lineup (Clobberers, Knights, and Rookies) is stronger than the FIDEs, ranging from about 0.5 to 1.5 pawns stronger (the Clobberers are more balanced than the too-strong Rookies and Knights, presumably because the latter would tend to feel more awkward to an average chessplayer).

I suggested on Talk:Maka dai dai shogi the possibility of replacing the FAD of the Clobberers with maF (moves as ferz once or twice per turn, but must stop once it makes a capture), and User:H.G.Muller verified that this makes them equal to the FIDEs (50% winning percentage for each side). I wonder what larger adjustment is needed for the others. Perhaps HFD to FD for the Rookies? (no, too much Double sharp (talk) 13:30, 18 February 2016 (UTC)) Double sharp (talk) 09:22, 18 February 2016 (UTC)

proposed weakenings
As discussed in various places on CVP and Wikipedia. (Obviously not for the article yet, until/unless someone playtests them and puts them as valid choices on CVP) My suggestion (playtested by H.G.Muller). (Undecided about names: used the problemists' ones when I could find them. "Prime minister" is a joke on the meaning of "ferz", since it is a limited doublemove ferz.) Double sharp (talk) 09:11, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Colourbound Clobberers

H.G.Muller's suggestion. Double sharp (talk) 09:18, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Remarkable Rookies
 * Edit: Weakened the short rook even further to R2 rather than R3, see discussion on User talk:H.G.Muller. Double sharp (talk) 21:05, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

I guess we should think about what to do with the Nutters... Double sharp (talk) 04:57, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

New armies to add
I should add H.G.Muller's armies (from CVP): the Bent Bozos and the Daring Dragons. Double sharp (talk) 07:47, 12 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Done, but may have some issues that i don't know about on the formatting side Jan Gamecuber (talk) 02:03, 17 February 2023 (UTC)