Talk:Chessmaster

Versions
The versions section should be changed to reflect each title separately, and the platforms for which it has been released, along with release dates (multiple if different per platform).


 * There's a lot of good information for previous versions on the MobyGames site linked in the External Links section. Can we reference any of that without breaking any rules? --ZeroWiki 166.33.94.6 14:02, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

The box on the side incorrectly only notes MS-DOS as the platform, although the text is more specific that it is widely multiplatform across all its versions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Santaduck (talk • contribs)

Is the 10th Edition equivalent to a chessmaster 10000? so it's the one after 9000 right? 70.111.251.203 02:10, 24 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Correct. --ZeroOne 12:08, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

well, no not really. chessmaster got bored of 4000 5000 6000 9000 so they put up 10th edition even thought it isnt even the 10th edition (count it). i play chessmaster 10th edition. its good. splitz is good too... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dark wizzie1 (talk • contribs) 21 September 2006


 * Well, yeah, in the sense that the series started with Chessmaster 2000, it's the ninth edition. And if you count the games listed at MobyGames, you get the result that it is the thirteenth edition. But the "10th Edition" still is the one after Chessmaster 9000, which was the point. --ZeroOne 14:31, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

yes. rite. oh and bat the 10h edition sounds good. you should listen to the oening music:) anyone here likes chessmaster10th edition?I LOVE IT:) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dark wizzie1 (talk • contribs) 23 September 2006

Kinda makes you wonder what kind of people they have working at Ubisoft.

"Sir, we're all finished. Chessmaster 10,000 is ready to ship out."

"Wait a second. I don't like that title. Chessmaster 10,000 doesn't sound very good."

"Well, we can use a different title. How about Chessmaster 10? Or maybe Chessmaster 10K? We could use a Roman numeral and call it Chessmaster X. What about Chessmaster 2004?"

"No, none of those are any good. Wait, I've got it! We'll call it Chessmaster 10th Edition."

"But sir, the first game in the series was Chessmaster 2000."

"Right."

"Which means that this new game is the ninth game in the series."

"Yep."

"So it's the 9th edition, not the 10th edition."

"What's your point?"

DT29 06:20, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Update
There are almost no references on the new ch10. I think the article should reformed.--GrWikiMan 18:00, 2 October 2006 (UTC)


 * still needs to be updated Djgranados 00:58, 2 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Just for the heck of it, will anyone care to check the website and see what happened? I simply don't have the time. ~user:orngjce223how am I typing? 19:44, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Pre-Chessmaster Chessmaster?
Searching for "chessmaster" on the World of Spectrum website gets results for two ZX Spectrum games: The Chessmaster 2000 and a game titled Chess Master. This second game was published by a company called Serin Software in 1984, two years before the first edition of Chessmaster was published. Interesting that lawyers never got involved after the Chessmaster games got popular. DT29 06:33, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject class rating
This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 07:56, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Notability of amateur computer chess enthusiasts?
"The personality feature has inspired many amateur computer chess enthusiasts to attempt to find more optimum personalities. Notable among these are Kurt Utzinger, Wilhelm Hudetz, Jason Kent, Dom Leste, Milorad Madjar, Graham Banks and Ray Banks." I don't mean any offense to these guys, but I question how notable are these computer chess enthusiasts outside of their own small group? Tony75 (talk) 02:57, 29 May 2008 (UTC)


 * I agree; these names don't add anything to the article. The second sentence of your quote is now deleted. GregorB (talk) 17:27, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Graham and Ray are co-founders of the CCRL rating lists. 125.236.132.139 (talk) 00:22, 14 November 2022 (UTC)

The Web vs. Chessmaster 8000
My copy of Chessmaster 9000 includes the game "The Web vs. Chessmaster 8000." I was planning on adding it to the "notable games" section, but apparently it isn't quite so notable because I can hardly find anything about it on the net; just some throwaway references on message boards. I'm sure it's not quite as notable as Kasparov vs. the World or Larry Christiansen vs. Chessmaster 9000, but it's amazing how little record I can find of it, given the organizing and publicity required for these kinds of matches. It's like it never even happened. The year is given as 2001, but the PGN doesn't give a location. (The game select screen gives the location as "Discovery 1", but this is a mistake -- "Discovery 1" is the location of the game between Frank Poole and HAL 9000 from the movie 2001: A Space Odyssey, which is also included in Chessmaster.) Below I've posted the move list of the game (which ended in draw by agreement), in case it can be of any help.


 * 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Nxe5 d6 4.Nf3 Nxe4 5.d4 d5 6.Bd3 Bd6 7.O-O O-O 8.c4 c6 9.Qc2 Na6 10.a3 Bg4 11.Nbd2 Nxd2 12.Nxd2 Qh4 13.g3 Qh5 14.Qb3 Rab8 15.cxd5 cxd5 16.Re1 Nc7 17.Nf1 Ne6 18.Be3 Bc7 19.Nd2 Bb6 20.Qb4 Nd8 21.Bf4 Nc6 22.Qa4 Bxd4 23.h4 Rbc8 24.Qb5 Bb6 25.Be3 Nd4 26.Qa4 Qe5 27.Kg2 Qf6 28.Bg5 Qc6 29.Qxc6 Rxc6 30.Re7 f6 31.Be3 Bc8 32.Re1 Bc5 33.Bxd4 Bxd4 34.b4 Bb2 35.Nb1 Be5 36.f4 Bd4 37.Rd1 Bb6 38.Rde1 Bd8 39.R7e2 Bg4 40.Rd2 Bb6 41.Bc2 d4 42.Bb3+ Kh8 43.Rc2 Bd7 44.Re7 Rd6 45.Nd2 Bc6+ 46.Kf1 Rd7 47.Rxd7 Bxd7 48.Nc4 Bc7 49.Na5 Bxa5 50.bxa5 Bc6 51.Kf2 a6 52.Re2 Rd8 53.Ke1 d3 54.Re3 d2+ 55.Kd1 g6 56.Bc4 Ba4+ 57.Bb3 Bb5 58.a4 Bc6 59.Ke2 Bg2 60.Bc2 f5 61.Bd3 Rd4 62.Kxd2 Rxa4 63.Re5 Ra3 64.h5 Kg7 65.g4 fxg4 66.hxg6 hxg6 67.Rg5 Bf3 68.Rxg6+ Kf7 69.Rg5 Bc6 70.Rxg4 Rxa5 71.Kc3 Ra4 72.Rh4 Bd5 73.Rh6 a5 74.Rd6 Bc6 75.Bc4+ Ke7 76.Re6+ Kd7 77.Re5 Kd6 78.Re6+ Kc7 79.Re7+ Kb6 80.Re1 Ra3+ 81.Kd4 Rf3 82.Ke5 a4 83.f5 Ka5 84.Be6 b5 85.f6 Be8 86.Rh1 Bg6 87.Rg1 Re3+ 1/2-1/2

DT29 (talk) 00:29, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Merge proposal
Chessmaster: The Art of Learning has been proposed to be merged with this article.

Support the merger, as long as there is a redirect from Chessmaster: The Art of Learning.--DThomsen8 (talk) 11:29, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Support. SunCreator (talk) 00:06, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

Support The Art of Learning page adds nothing, and all the information is available on this page too. Arnie Side (talk) 20:45, 30 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Support, for the reasons others gave. Bubba73 (the argument clinic), 20:48, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

It was proposed over a month ago and no one disagrees with the merger, so I'm doing it. Bubba73 (the argument clinic), 20:52, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

The merge was probably a good idea but now there is image and info box overload on the page. I can't see the benefit of having the second infobox tied in with the two or three line section. 3 screenshots (2 from the same edition, none of them the latest) seems a bit excessive given the length of the article and it isn't clear what critical commentary they're providing.--Crossmr (talk) 11:49, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Chessmaster Challenger... versions...
No mention of the different versions: Chessmaster Challenger available from http://store.steampowered.com/app/37200/ _looks_ to be a cut down version of the latest in the Chessmaster Grandmaster etc series?... 122.148.41.172 (talk) 12:02, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

New publisher
Hello, I heard Ubisoft is no longer publishing Chessmaster and it has been taken over by a new company. Does anyone know who that would be? Thanks JunoBeach (talk) 14:58, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

There is no new company, it's retired and unavailable now. From Chris @ Ubisoft Support, Dec 22, 2014 at 04:47 PM EST: "The Chessmaster series unfortunately is out of publication and the ability to purchase the game is now unavailable. I apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused." Caswick 15:44, 24 December 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Caswick (talk • contribs)

There is no public URL for the ticket reference number 01881143 where this response is registered, therefore, it's original research and I can't put it on the main page. --Caswick 15:50, 24 December 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Caswick (talk • contribs)

Sales Figures Lack Substantiation
Hi, the article claims that "It is the best-selling chess franchise in history, with more than five million units sold as of 2002." however the footnote provides no support for these assertions. Do you think I should remove them? I looked back at earlier versions of the footnote-referenced page at archive.org and couldn't find any support for it there either. Dsjoerg (talk) 19:09, 16 July 2013 (UTC)