Talk:Chi Omega

Chi Omega's size, compared to other women's organizations and sororities
I don't think Chi Omega can claim to be the 'second largest women's organization in the US'. Can this be verified? The statement is ambiguous at best, incorrect at worst. For instance, National Organization of Women (NOW) claims over 500,000 members (although they include men and women.) The YWCA has over 2.6 million members in the US alone (again, not strictly women-only. But even among exclusive, women-only sororal groups - the Daughters of the American Revolution (DAR) boasts 168,000 living members, 3,000 chapters and since its founding has admitted over 800,000 members. The numbers for Chi Omega (at 300,000?) are for total members over the entire life of the organization and are most certainly less than that. Therefore I am removing this statistic from the post, barring verification to the contrary. --CaliGyrl 21:11, 10 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Chi Omega's claim as "largest womens' group" is unfounded. Other womens' groups are larger.  Starting with the DAR that has inducted over 700,000 members.  Time to lose that piece of urban legend.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.7.134.213 (talk) 22:36, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Chi O as a fraction of all sororities
The statistic discussed below is actually true because it includes alumnae of Chi Omega members. --Jobelle 18 June 2009 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.225.208.12 (talk) 17:40, 18 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I made a correction to the introduction paragraph to edit a false statistic - 1 in ever 4 sorority women are most assuredly not Chi Omegas. The current number of total initiates for NPC sororities alone according to The Greek Info Pages:


 * 240,000 - Chi Omega
 * 223,969 - Pi Beta Phi
 * 220,000 - Zeta Tau Alpha
 * 210,000 - Delta Delta Delta
 * 200,000 - Kappa Kappa Gamma
 * 191,000 - Kappa Alpha Theta
 * 190,000 - Delta Gamma
 * 189,000 - Alpha Chi Omega
 * 182,500 - Alpha Delta Pi
 * 180,000 - Kappa Delta .. and that is just the top ten in size - there are 26 NPC sororities total


 * And even with the top ten in size that is over 2 million sorority women right there - and only 240,000 of those are Chi Omegas. So, Chi Omega is the largest women's sorority, but 1 and 4 sorority women are not Chi Omegas.

Chi O initiation practices
In the book "Pledged" by Alexandra Robbins, an initiate of Chi Omega describes her initiation experience. She alleges that it involves that it involves new members being shut in coffins and then having lingerie pillow fights.
 * The allegations regarding the use of coffins are fundamentally untrue. The depiction of the whole of the Greek system within Ms. Robbins's book has been fairly soundly ridiculed in both Greek and non-Greek arenas.  The mere fact that her writing has been published should not be sufficient to give it the weight of fact.  Moreover, the alleged practice would be a violation of Chi Omega's founding principles, as well as the guidelines of the NPC.  --Duchamp 17 October 2006


 * I can tell you that in the PAST the coffin was used for more than one group. However, it is no longer used, so anyone initiated in the last several years would have no knowledge of it unless told about it. We are specifically not supposed to tell the new girls about it at all because it is not condoned any longer and no one wants to go there if you know what I mean. Almost ALL fraternities and sororities have minor and even major changes in ritual through out the years and your regular ole 4 year collegian would have no clue unless they attended a LOT of conventions or stayed active as an alumne. With a hundred years of history I seriously doubt many have a clue as to what their organization used to do before they joined.Eelmonkey 23:34, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

The True Story of the Founding of Chi Omega
In 1894, a group of young women at the University of Arkansas approached Delta Gamma's council. They were interested in starting a chapter of Delta Gamma at their school. The council duly sent out a group of sisters to investigate the school and the interested women. However, the Delta Gammas decided that they would not colonize there (the reasons for this are not known: some claim that it was because the Arkansas women did not meet the necessary qualifications for membership, others say it was because the DGs felt that the university had a bad reputation). The Chi Omega founders decided to start their own sorority, and with the aid of Dr. Richardson (a local dentist), the Psi chapter of Chi Omega was born on April 5, 1895, with 14 members.


 * Just so you all know---The above statement is ABSOLUTELY FALSE! The women of Chi Omega wanted to start their own sorority because the men in Arkansaa had fraternities. Whomever wrote this is sadly misinformed and its a disgrace that someone would lie, especially about our 5 founders.


 * I heard it was true, from a woman who heard it from an early member of Delta Gamma. Apparently DG keeps it quiet because they like the current incarnation of Chi Omega.  I think its rather funny since they're both such huge powerhouses in Greek Life- imagine if they had been combined! -Elizabennet 05:54, 9 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Our founders formed Chi Omega because they wanted to start a sorority, but did not believe there was one that already existed that upheld the strong moral and beliefs of Chi Omega —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.180.44.107 (talk) 07:41, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Additional Comment transfered
(THIS "STORY" OF CHI OMEGA'S START IS NOT TRUE)

The Chi Omega Amphitheater
Can anyone provide a background about this outdoor theater?


 * The Greek Theater at the University of Arkansas was donated by the Psi chapter some years ago. Chi Omega was founded by 5 beautiful, smart women who had no desire to be DG's.  They did indeed found Chi Omega because they felt the need for a women's fraternity.

wrong they didn't want to be dg's SMH — Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.135.165.62 (talk) 21:48, 3 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Note: The above statement is mostly correct, but with one change: only 4 of the 5 founders were women. The fifth was Dr. Charles Richardson, a Kappa Sigma, who helped the four ladies found Chi Omega and created the first Chi Omega badge. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.80.184.22 (talk) 01:06, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

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Helping poor fat kids do their math . ..
Look at San Diego Padres, Baltimore, and Radial arm saw. You'll find that they were founded or invented in 1969, 1729, and 1922, respectively, but it doesn't say that they were invented or founded 41 years ago, 281 years ago, and 88 years ago. Why not? Because encyclopedias don't do that. We give the year something was founded or invented, and if someone needs to know how many years ago that was, they figure it out.

I'm going to once again take out the "years ago" in the info box, and if someone puts it back, I can only assume it's because they think that Chi O's are too frigging stupid to do the math themselves. Reverting my edit is tantamount to insulting the intelligence of every member of the largest sorority in the country. 98.71.218.248 (talk) 09:24, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
 * This edit was not vandalism. The reasoning behind it was explained in detail, as seen immediately above. I have reverted the change, and expect a discussion before it is placed back again. 98.71.244.147 (talk) 18:19, 19 May 2011 (UTC)


 * I've added Template:start date and years ago back in to align the infobox with Template:Infobox fraternity . If you have a problem with the template, please discuss it on the talk page, not here. Thanks. Elerina (talk) 09:37, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Marketing or Encyclopedia ?
Now, I didn't check this pages contents origin, but this style is marketing speech that seems directly pasted over from the sorority. Words like "forever", "our", "you" and "emblems loved by" can't be considered encyclopedic and should be exchanged into NPOV statements. --Enyavar (talk) 20:54, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Chi Omega is [...] forever committed to our founding purposes [...]
 * [...] all of the emblems known and loved by Chi Omegas [...]
 * [...] Today, over 200,000 copies of The Eleusis are mailed out three times per year to our collegiate and alumnae members. If you are a Chi Omega in good standing, you have a free lifetime subscription to the Eleusis. [...]
 * Agreed, I think this needs to be made more NPOV.Naraht (talk) 21:14, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

Bundy Murders
I realize the organization would rather not have it on here, but it seems relivant to include a mention of the 1978 murders of Margaret Bowman and Lisa Levy that took place at the FSU chapter. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:30A:C7DF:E250:6141:4F1:986C:749C (talk) 04:22, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

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