Talk:Chicken McNuggets

Portion Sizes
It seems that the 9 and 10 figures are interchanged every so often. Can someone confirm a market that has the nine piece still? I have packaging to back up a 10 piece... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Modor (talk • contribs) 08:53, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Both French and German McDonalds sell the 9-piece packages, for example. --Fritz S. (Talk) 11:52, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Although the above link doesn't seem to work anymore, I can confirm that Germany still has the 9-piece. If desired, I can take pictures. --134.2.190.254 (talk) 10:23, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

1983 Introduction
(link to post article : http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/washingtonpost/access/419392491.html?dids=419392491:419392491&FMT=ABS&FMTS=ABS:FT&type=current&date=Oct+06%2C+2003&author=&pub=The+Washington+Post&desc=McDonald%27s++Plans+Leaner++McNugget&pqatl=google) DFS (talk) 08:48, 10 January 2010 (UTC) 15:06, 9 February 2010 (UTC0 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.227.126.225 (talk)
 * Chicken McNuggets were introduced in the Lawton, Oklahoma area around 1981. This was, I assume, a test market. The McChicken was not available at the locations with McNuggets. McDonald's locations in other areas introduced McNuggets after the original McChicken, but in Southwest Oklahoma, McNuggets have been available, without interruption since 1981. I say this from firsthand experience, thus I've not added it to the article. --Aaron Walden [[Image:Tsalagisigline.gif]] 00:27, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Given that this was twenty some years ago I'm hoping that someone else can confirm my recollection. I believe that when Chicken McNuggets were first introduced in the Seattle,Washington area, they were bundled as a five piece McNuggets with a small french fry called "Chicken and Chips".Jsbrugg 05:05, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
 * You didn't imagine it. Definitely had Chicken and Chips in the Detroit suburbs back around 82 or so. Good luck finding cites, though. As I recall, they were slightly different, a bit less breading on the nuggets than later on, though the first time I had actual McNuggets, (Flint, MI suburbs ~83) they were that way too. They clearly tinkered with the recipe a bit early on. 76.226.205.69 (talk) 09:37, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
 * It must have been easy to find work (and McNuggets) back then. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.25.105.176 (talk) 02:56, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I remember them being introduced in late 1980 in the Tri-State NY area128.82.253.41 (talk) 21:11, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Can someone find a referenced source for the introduction? According to the Washington Post, it was 1983.  Would it be fair to say something along the lines of "The McNugget was released in various test markets in the early 1980's and was released nationwide (worldwide?) in 1983" ?
 * Test markets began selling the McNuggets in late-1980 in test markets and the McNuggets were rolled out into all US restaurants by the end of 1982.

Sauces
I've never seen buffalo sauce served with nuggets before. Can someone check this out  ROASTY TOAST  18:16, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I've worked at a McDonalds in Texas, and you can get buffalo sauce with nuggets, you have to ask for it though. They don't offer it because it's bigger than the other sauce packets. Pooleyusk (talk) 20:20, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

You can get it in Albuqerque, NM. 76.113.127.34 (talk) 01:25, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Dietary info
Recently, McDonalds Australia released nine meals that are endorsed by the Heart Foundation and have their (literal) Tick of Approval. One or two of these meals (I'll go check that) include three Mcnuggets and a salad plus a drink of either orange juice or water (again, I'll go check). The Tick means that Mcnuggets must comply with the Heart Foundation's recommendations including having low sodium/low sugar/low fat, which seems to imply that Maccas Australia (if not other countries) have changed their recipe somewhat. (The McChicken burger is also added as one of the nine Tick-approved meals. Note that we Aussies call them burgers, you call them sandwiches). I'm wondering if, when I find the info, it is advantageous to the article to include that- Naturally, all such inclusions are cited with appropriate resources. Would love to hear other opinions :) Naysie 06:48, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
 * nuggets are approved by the Heart Foundation in small portions
 * possibly there are significent nutritional differences in McNuggets from the US (or the world) than Australia

OK, the McDonalds and the Tick-approved meals are found at http://www.mcdonalds.com.au/HTML/ourFood/tickApprovedMeals.asp# (note that the Heart Foundation is not affliated with McDonalds and all the requirements for getting a food Tick-approved can be found at the Heart Foundation's website). Dietary info for all McDonalds Australia foods can be found at http://www.mcdonalds.com.au/HTML/nutrition/ and are available as PDF downloads. Naysie 06:56, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

The box for 6 piece Chicken McNuggets say 540mg of sodium. 68.5.92.32 (talk) 04:38, 9 September 2009 (UTC)]

Humane nuggets
Does anyone know if it's necessary to kill the chicken to remove its nuggets?--G-Dett 03:11, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
 * it's made from breast meat, so i'm guessing it's far more humane to kill the poor critter first..WotherspoonSmith 09:01, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
 * lol, I don't think he/she is being serious.(74.15.9.5 (talk) 03:09, 5 June 2008 (UTC))
 * heh heh, funny. you know, all this nutrition stuff aside, these things are freakin' delicious.--  FUNK A MATIC      ~talk   17:54, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Chopsticks
I just had to note that I learned how to use chopsticks as a child when McDonald's had the Asian dipping sauce promotion with Chicken McNuggets. As I eat and professionally cook many Asian cuisines now, I wonder if I owe that influence to McDonald's, the irony.--Christopher Tanner, CCC 19:11, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Also did you notice that they're pretty much tempura-battered? Almost nobody else does that with their nuggets (theyre usually just breaded)... especially frozen grocery store brands. Only recently has Tyson put out a similarly battered-not-breaded nugget. Breading is gross. Batter rocks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.122.63.142 (talk) 16:06, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

two shapes or three?
i'm sure i can make out three different nugget shapes, not just the two mentioned. One is a boot shape, one kinda round, one kinda diamond shaped. i have no idea if this is international (i'm in Australia). anyone care to do some investigation? i'd hate such a crucial piece of information to be spread by wikipedia... WotherspoonSmith 09:01, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Three. --Fritz S. (Talk) 09:58, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
 * thanks Fritz. Will edit the front page now.WotherspoonSmith 11:17, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

origin of McNugget shapes?
It seems there's a few people watching these pages, so I thought I'd throw out a question for you all. I'm pretty sure the statement blablahblahblah!!!!! sources, though, about McNuggets. Anyone have a source, clues for googling- or objections if I just delete the sentences about shapes? WotherspoonSmith 12:39, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

THE ROUND ONES TASTE THE BEST!!! YUMMY YUMMY!!! BOCK...BOCK BOCK BOCK....!!! HEHEHEHEHEHE!!! 67.163.67.150 21:03, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

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Who is Ivan Martinez
The article says the following: "Eventually, Ivan Martinez, a yeeee! the nuggets with all white meat"

So my question, of course, is how Ivan Martinez has anything to do with this article(?) Fatrb38 (talk) 07:53, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

San Ysidro McDonald's massacre
As far as I can tell, some attorney tried to make a claim against McNuggets that ultimately failed. As a result, I don't think it really belongs in *this* article. Sure, it belongs in the massacre article, but not here. If McNuggets had been found to be a contributing factor by the courts, then I might agree it belongs here. Rklawton (talk) 15:23, 2 April 2010 (UTC)


 * I have to agree, the section doesn't even say that they tried to make a claim against McNuggets, it's worded saying they made a claim against McDonalds food in general which happened to include the nuggets (and as it's worded I'm lead to believe the claim also included fries and other foods as well). Either someone needs to find a source specifically linking that McNuggets received serious connection to the massacre/trial in the media, and then re-write the section accordingly, or the section should be deleted as it has no place in this article in it's current form.24.190.34.219 (talk) 14:21, 27 April 2010 (UTC)


 * OK, I've removed the section. Rklawton (talk) 14:37, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Super Size Me
I don't think the movie "Super Size Me" is a reliable source. For example, Chicken McNuggets most certainly are not "freeze dried" after frying. They are "flash frozen." There's got to be a lot of reliable information about this item, surely we can find better sources. Rklawton (talk) 15:26, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

50 piece
I've seen it, but yes, a reliable source would help. Rklawton (talk) 09:48, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

This was around for the Superbowl in 2009 and possibly years before. The article says it was introduced in 2010. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.181.255.167 (talk) 15:25, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

platypus meat? Seriously?
Some one has removed the wonderful section about playpuses. This is incorrect, inconsistent, and should be changed back to platypuses. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.232.60.106 (talk) 17:21, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

"Little People" caption on image
"Little people PETA activists demonstrating in New York City's Times Square against how McDonald's kills chickens to make McNuggets."

Is saying they are "little people" relevant to the article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gemralts (talk • contribs) 01:54, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

1980?
Are there indeed some sources that state 1980 as the introduction date, and if so, are these sources significant enough that we need to bring them to the reader's attention? Rklawton (talk) 01:09, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

On the Controversies section
Just adding to the discussion, but the person quoted first in that section wasn't too educated--leavening is normal household use! You use it every time you add eggs, baking soda, baking powder, or even water to a baked recipe! 96.231.159.82 (talk) 20:43, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

I'm unclear about what makes the items in the Controversies section controversial. In the first paragraph, a judge is quoted as using the perjorative "McFrankenstein" simply because not all the ingredients are used by home cooks but doesn't explain why that is a problem. In the second paragraph, a university professor is quoted as saying that McNuggets probably aren't harmful but thinks that people shouldn't eat an "ingredient you can't pronounce" but doesn't explain why that is a problem. The third paragraph describes an anti-foaming agent and preservative used in McNuggets that apparently are commonly used in other food products. Nothing in the Controversies section claims that McNuggets are any more harmful, fattening, non-nutritional, poor tasting, or a poorer value than most other processed foods. So, again, what's controversial about them? Primogen (talk) 01:43, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

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Typo
In, there's an extraneous period/fullstop in "In Canada, Chicken McNuggets are sold in packs of 4 (as part of a Happy Meal.), 6,"... Please delete it. Thanks, 85.67.32.244 (talk) 13:19, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅. Thanks. –CWenger ( ^ •  @ ) 13:52, 26 September 2021 (UTC)

Unnecessary Addition
No need for " at a central manufacturing facility," in description and origin paragraph, it provides no additional context. Bwave (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 16:11, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 5 July 2022
I would like to just ad a little more detail to the Description and Origin section if that's okay CyberJudoon (talk) 16:55, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Nythar (talk) 20:15, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 13 September 2022
Add chembox and solubility in DCM of 0g/L (source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2YbK7FnESU&t=250s) Fpoutre (talk) 20:38, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: WP:NOTTRIVIA.  General Ization Talk  20:44, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

Bone or bow-tie?
Chicken McNuggets come in 4 shapes. The boot, ball, bell, and... what? Some sources claim the fourth shape is a "Bone", and others claim it's a "Bow-tie". --I am a Green Bee (talk) 17:51, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 28 January 2023
Please remove the article's main hatnote (the about template producing the text This article is about the version of the product sold at McDonald's restaurants. For chicken nuggets in general, see Chicken nugget.) - the first sentence of the article is already "Chicken McNuggets are a type of chicken nuggets sold by the international fast food restaurant chain McDonald's", which says pretty much the same thing, so a disambiguating hatnote is not actually necessary (and hatnotes shouldn't be used for WP:RELATED topics anyway, right?). twotwos ( talk ) 11:48, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
 * . I agree it is not needed. –CWenger ( ^ •  @ ) 16:02, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

Requested move 28 January 2023

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The result of the move request was: not moved to the proposed title at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasu よ! 05:00, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

Chicken McNuggets → Chicken McNugget – WP:NCPLURAL; don't think it falls under any of the exceptions.&#32; –CWenger ( ^ •  @ ) 19:16, 28 January 2023 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). EdJohnston (talk) 00:01, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I'd say they fall under the Articles on items such as scissors or handcuffs are not located at awkward, unnatural titles like scissor or handcuff exception. Cf. french fries. - UtherSRG (talk) 23:40, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
 * @UtherSRG: I wouldn't call it "awkward" or "unnatural" to say Chicken McNugget though, it's even used like that in the article. Whereas "scissor" or "handcuff" are virtually never used as a noun. Can't explain French fries though. –CWenger ( ^ •  @ ) 23:46, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I think this might be a reasonable request considering Chicken nugget's location. ~ Eejit43 ( talk ) 23:56, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

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 * Support per WP:SINGULAR and WP:CONSISTENT for consistency with chicken nugget. Rreagan007 (talk) 18:57, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Oppose Chicken McNuggets® is the name of a brand. You could eat one Skittle, but the article is still at Skittles (confectionery). -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠</b> 02:47, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
 * That is a good point that I neglected to consider. Seems like maybe this should be an exception at WP:NCPLURAL. –CWenger ( ^ •  @ ) 03:16, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Oppose – Agreed with King of Hearts' analysis: this is a product where the brand name is in the plural. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 19:26, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Oppose. Almost always seen in the plural. Dogma is rarely a good look. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:10, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Oppose per King of Hearts. Aoba47 (talk) 21:08, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 8 August 2023
The first sentence of the "Description and Origin" heading reads: "The Chicken McNugget is a small piece of processed chicken meat that is fried in batter and flash-frozen at a central..." The phrase "fried in batter" is inaccurate and grammatically incorrect. It should read "...a small piece of processed chicken meat that is battered and deep fried, and then flash-frozen at a central..." i.e. It isn't fried IN batter. It is battered and THEN fried in oil. Hneilm (talk) 19:46, 8 August 2023 (UTC)


 * I think what the sentence is trying to say is that it is fried while in batter ("in batter" in the sense of "in a jacket"). Edward-Woodrow :) [ talk ] 20:25, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: The text is trying to say that chicken nuggets are fried after having been battered. Lightoil (talk) 14:08, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

Origin Story
I can't edit because of the edit protection, but there's a story in The Search for General Tso documentary that I think is interesting and related to the origins. At the 32 minute mark, chef Wing Yee Leong talks about McDonalds coming to Leong's Asian Diner in the 60s or 70s to see how they made their cashew chicken, which had been invented there by chef David Leong. According to the story, McDonalds reps asked for the recipe but refused to pay for it, so they refused to give them the recipe, but then McDonalds came out with chicken nuggets about a year after the visit. HeptagonalPrism (talk) 10:12, 17 August 2023 (UTC)