Talk:Child mortality/Archive 1

Five year age limit
I know that child mortality usually refers to children under five but that limitation leaves out a lot of boys and girls. Culture vary, but children could be defined as up to 19 years. Injury causes about 350,000 deaths each year for children under five years of age. Between the age of 5 and 19, an additional 600,000 boys and girls die from injuries. (ref- http://www.who.int/violence_injury_prevention/child/injury/world_report/en/ Report on child injury, World Health Organization) Of course, preventable illness is another great toll of older children as well. I think this article would be better without the 5 year limit. 172.164.41.68 (talk) 07:33, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I understand your concern. However, the formal definition from both UNICEF and WHO is under five years of age. Yes, there are many children 5 and over who die from a wide range of causes. But it is the mortality rate for under fives that indicates a lot about where resources need to be targeted. It is also an indicator of long term mortality in a population. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 08:22, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

This is a small article and could expanded in other sections that deal with all ages, but in present form it can't be expanded. The "formal" definition is only recognized by people already familiar with the subject. A first sections could remain "as is" in this article and just titled Under five mortality. Following sections dealing with all children could follow. This under-five limitation also limits contributers ability to add information about other age groups. The introduction could quickly explain formal and informal use of the term as was done by the previous discussion comment. Thanks 172.130.14.93 (talk) 03:31, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

The history section is nonsense
In the first section child mortality is defined as the mortality up to five. So a distinction between "child mortality" and "under-5 mortality" with different numbers for each must be nonsense. I don't know how to correct that and don't want to delete it completely, but it must be amended. Axel Berger (talk) 00:21, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
 * The 2012 U.N. report does not make a distinction between Under-5 mortality and child mortality. Roger (talk) 03:13, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

Article Style: Not encyclopedic
This article has some areas that look more like a journalistic style or even apolitical manifesto style in the way data is given, rather than an encyclopedic style. Even the first sentence does not comply with Wikipedia standard of having a short definition of what this is about, but instead provides a provocative sentence to entice readers to go on. If you know more about this subject, please improve the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by PabloStraub (talk • contribs) 19:13, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Resolved. It shortens the article, but it's not necessary to list endless statistics about how horrible it all is. If anyone wants to expand the article with more in-depth description of programs, for example, that would be helpful. Roger (talk) 03:56, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

Contradictions
The article presents contradictory information about hunger-related deaths.


 * "Two-thirds of deaths are preventable. Malnutrition and the lack of safe water and sanitation contribute to half of all these children’s deaths." So here malnutrition can contribute to no more than 1/3 of deaths (since water/sanitation must account for some too)?


 * "Malnutrition is estimated to contribute to more than one third of all child deaths." OK, more than 1/3?


 * "1 child dies every 5 seconds as a result of hunger - 700 every hour - 16 000 each day - 6 million each year - 60% of all child deaths (2002-2008 estimates)." OK, 60%?


 * "“Hunger and malnutrition are the underlying cause of more than half of all child deaths" -- OK, more than half?

Without going into detailed research of the references and statistics, I can only conclude that the article is better off just saying that sources differ on exact numbers but hunger and malnutrition are a major cause of death. Dr.frog (talk) 19:00, 10 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Resolved, mainly by eliminating older statistics. Roger (talk) 03:57, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

Regression analyses of data projects 94 million u5m 2014-2042
Googled child mortality and found Wikipedia summary as first listing. Might it help to put child mortality in perspective with regression analyses of UNICEF and WHO data which projects another 94 million child mortalities 2014-2042? The regression analyses graphic can be found at foodarbor.wordpress.com, first blog entry, second resource listing. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jn1277 (talk • contribs) 02:08, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

Relationship with article on infant mortality
The article on infant mortality is far more detailed than this one. We should make sure readers understand that most aspects are likely to be covered in the infant mortality article and focus here on what is different between child mortality and infant mortality. E.g. in the developing world context, such as in the Millennium Development Goals, it is the child mortality that is in focus, not the infant mortality. EvM-Susana (talk) 13:24, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

Merge with article on child survival?
I was surprised to find today that this article on child mortality is still very under-developed, whilst it is such an important topic - well, at least in the developing countries context! Links to sanitation and hygiene pages need to be added! Also, I would like to propose that it is merged with the article on child survival which is also short at this stage. Or if not, then both articles need to be built up in parallel: this one would then only focus on causes of death, but not on any prevention measures. And the other one would focus on prevention measures. In general though, I think the term child mortality would be more familiar to people than the term child survival. We also don't speak of infant survival, human survival etc. EvM-Susana (talk) 21:16, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Agree Doc James  (talk · contribs · email) 06:25, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I have now moved the content from the former page on child survival to here. Will still need some further work to cite good references in the right places. EvM-Susana (talk) 07:12, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

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Child mortality-expand to different part
This article is limited by the child mortality by death under age of 5. However, that the overall views of child mortality should have mention different part of child mortality. Could have mention, perinatal, prenatal, neonatal, infancy and under 5 deaths. Explain five things would make better article, child mortality not only under 5 deaths. Each specific section has different effect on child mortality. Child mortality not only cause by disease, there could have been affect by female not having access to education and poor health care.MosiurMunna (talk) 03:22, 15 March 2018 (UTC) Jump up ^ "Global, regional, and national causes of child mortality: an updated systematic analysis for 2010 with time trends since 2000". Jump up ^ "Causes of Early Childhood Deaths in Urban Dhaka, Bangladesh". Jump up ^ Roberts, Ian; Power, Chris (1996-09-28). "Does the decline in child injury mortality vary by social class? A comparison of class specific mortality in 1981 and 1991". BMJ. 313 (7060): 784–786. doi:10.1136/bmj.313.7060.784. ISSN 0959-8138. . Jump up ^ "Child Mortality - Our World in Data". Our World in Data. Retrieved 2018-03-15. Jump up ^ "UNICEF - Goal: Reduce child mortality". www.unicef.org. Retrieved 2018-03-15.

Peer Review by Ben
Overall, I think this article could have been written better. I believe the majority of it can be worded to make the article seem more interesting and less generic. The flow of the paragraphs was not that great. "Reduction of child mortality is the fourth of the United Nations' Millennium Development Goals" was written twice in the opening section and I think that is a relatively big mistake. However I do like that you added that the majority of these deaths take place in Africa, and I also like that you included the idea that not all child deaths can be recorded as some people do not have the resources available to do so. If revised and edited properly, this article could be very informative as well as interesting for people to read. Hopefully you take these ideas into consideration. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BenMaestas (talk • contribs) 04:26, 3 April 2018 (UTC)