Talk:Child of deaf adult

Value
This is a very valuable item, but is really suitable for either a dictionary, or perhaps an article on hearing-impaired terminology (to which it might redirect). BeteNoir 06:00, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
 * I strongly disagree. This is not only a huge part of deaf culture, but it is also a huge area of linguistics.  It is a phenomenom that many hearing persons' first language is sign language, because it is the language spoken in the home.  This should definitely be a separate article, as it covers a variety of areas that can't be simply confined in deaf culture or the article on linguistics.--Esprit15d 19:26, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

BêteNoire, firstly Deaf people never call themselves "hearing impaired". I agree with Gazpacho that the CODA article has potential for growth, and there is much encyclopedic info to offer here. It's part of a greater Deaf culture project that includes many other articles on aspects of this culture.--Sonjaaa 07:26, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

One really should add the tendency of CODA being interpreters, and the problems surrounding it, such as them not being professionally trained and limited by how much language and vocabulary their parents know and are able to teach them. ' (Feeling chatty? ) (Edits!) 14:55, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

The suggestion above is quite negative and lacks percept. However, it can be expanded to include the positive aspects of CODAs becoming interpreters. Although a CODA might not be professionaly trained he or she most likely has experience with interpreting, usually from an early age and can often times command a visual language to the same degree/skill/extent that a Deaf person would, thus making the CODA a potential for excellent/advanced/fluid interpretation. Also a CODA could choose to train professionaly and eliminate that as an issue on a whole. Further, when sign interpreters begin to learn a visual language it is encouraged of them to socalize with Deaf for development, application, and acceleration of these new skills. A CODA, by default, can have years of immersion in Deaf culture and also available to him/her a vast social network of Deaf, these Deaf can act as a reference source for the CODA. Meaning that a CODA's language and vocabulary, in sign, is not dictated merely by his or her parent's language/vocabulary level but instead can also be affected by a CODA's societal involvement with Deaf. In short, when the issue is viewed without bias one can see there really are marginal problems with CODA's becoming interpreters. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.80.178.154 (talk) 08:13, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Because the children are hearing...
"Because the children are hearing, but raised in a visual sign language, they may face difficulty, especially in going to hearing school. Because they have not yet learned to use their voices, they often need to go through speech therapy. Because the children are hearing, they do not go through the experience that their parents went, such as going to Deaf school. As such, many have admitted that they often feel isolated from the Deaf world and from the hearing world." Because the children are hearing...Because...Because the children are hearing....Because. This paragraph would need to be re-written, but I can't figure out a good way to. Dandin1 23:55, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

I'm not quite sure how to phrase that in the main article, though. Any ideas? --Micahbrwn 16:25, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Also, CODAs aren't all hearing. The definition of CODA is simply Child of Deaf Adult.  That's it.  The hearing status is irrelavent -- there's no such thing as a HCODA or whatever, it's simply CODA.  While it's true that most CODAs are indeed hearing, it's considered perfectly acceptable for a deaf person (who had parents who were/are deaf themselves) to refer to him- or herself as a CODA.  YMMV, of course.
 * I agree this point needs to be made more clear within the article. WritingStudentMP (talk) 18:03, 5 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Fix it by saying 'Because most children are hearing...' 157.127.124.15 (talk) 18:17, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Alexander Graham Bell
Although Bell was a defender of eugenism, but he married a Deaf woman and had 4 children with her. I don't believe he was for sterilizing deaf people. --200.181.66.2 14:19, 7 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Wouldn't it be a good idea if people switched kids, though? Y'know, if you have a deaf kid, swap it for a coda born around the same time? Seems logical.


 * Are you seriously advocating parents switching children so that the family's hearing status would remain consistent? Working for Him (talk) 02:47, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree with your enthusiastic response. I think what is often times overlooked when discussing the topic of CODA is that the deaf community is vibrant and diverse and while it may be different than that of the hearing community, it is just as worthy and valid inclusive of children who may or may not be hearing. (Pothosjoy3 (talk) 02:06, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

FAIL. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.195.91.184 (talk) 21:21, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Child of deaf or Deaf adult?
As I understand the article title and introduction, a CODA can be the child of a deaf parent who is not culturally Deaf and considers themself hearing impaired. Is this definition correct? Using sign language to raise one's child is independent of whether or not one is deaf, Deaf, or hearing, isn't it? I don't like over-simplified labels, but these questions are bound to come up, so we should address them (in a verifiable manner) to help future readers. --Ds13 22:03, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

In response: Codas are hearing adult (children) born to Deaf adults. Codas are aged 18 and above. WWW.CODA-International.org Koda are 17 and below.

Edit regarding support organizations: Information regarding CODA International should be updated. The source is out of date and states that CODA only has five chapters or regions. Information on CODA International website states that there are seven regions. Links to the CODA International website should be added - https://www.coda-international.org/ There should also be citations and links added to Camp Mark Seven, and KODAWest for easier access. Camp Mark Seven - http://www.campmark7.org/ KODAWest - http://www.kodawest.org/ The information regarding Camp Mark Seven isn't clear and true to the history. It should read something more like this - Camp Mark Seven (CM7), traditionally a camp for Deaf and Hard of Hearing, established a KODA camp program in 1997, the first of it's kind. The KODA program at CM7 has two separate two-week programs for children 9-12 and 13-16 years old. Mcanne (talk) 15:38, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

This article reads like a personal essay.
That's why I put the cleanup tag up. It also has minor npov problems. Awesimo 12:11, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Agreed. There also seems to be a conflict of interest and a certain role of opinion expressed in this article. DylanIloveYou DylanIloveYou (Talk)  22:42, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

There seems to be a huge over reaction in the tags - is it not possible, instead of huge warning tags to state calmly it may need tweaking?--82.12.11.142 (talk) 20:22, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Deaf and Hearing Impaired is different
There are two types of hearing disablity: Partial deafness (Hearing Impaired) or full deafiness. This article fails to set part the fact that there are Hearing impaired people. Hearing Impaired people can hear but at a reduced rate than normal. Deaf means "compleltely depived of ability to hear". Not all "deaf" people are depived of hearing.
 * I believe the term you are looking for is Hard of Hearing. The Deaf/HOH community in general does not like to be referred to as "impaired", and as such, "hearing impaired" is a term that should be avoided. Laineyh (talk) 02:19, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

Conducting further research
I am researching more on this topic and am looking to add to this article in any ways possible. My focus will be on the intercultural communication that is faced by CODA's and their parents.

I will be using information from these sources:
 * SHEPPARD K, BADGER T. The lived experience of depression among culturally Deaf adults. Journal Of Psychiatric & Mental Health Nursing [serial online]. November 2010;17(9):783-789. Available from: Academic Search Premier Depression among culturally Deaf adults
 * CODA international's main website coda-international.org
 * An article in the New York Times called THE FAMILY; CHILDREN OF DEAF SHARE THEIR LIVES by Glenn Collins The Family; Children of Deaf Share Their Lives
 * A web article titled: 7 Ties That Bind all Children of Deaf Adults (CODA) 7 Ties That Bind all Children of Deaf Adults (CODA)
 * Deaf Family Issues: CODAS and Identity, an article by Thomas H. Bull of Gallaudet University Deaf Family Issues: CODAS and Identity

If anyone has suggestions of other sources they think would be benefical to my research, please feel free to share! Marina Chapman (talk) 08:58, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

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Some thoughts
In reviewing this article, a couple of things grabbed my attention. The first I'd like to address is regarding the sentence "Ninety percent of children born to deaf adults can hear normally". Upon further investigation, this is a direct quote from the source material (an issue in its own right, due to plagiarism issues), but even independent of that, I would like to suggest changing the wording to steer clear of referring to hearing children as the "default", or "norm", as the implication is that deaf children are abnormal, and there is something wrong with them. I would recommend simply using the term "hearing", in order to keep away from any unintentional, biased language. The second thing I'd like to address is the lack of citations in the "Potential challenges facing hearing CODAs" section. The majority of the section is completely devoid of sources (with the exception of the last paragraph), and while I understand that this topic doesn't have much research out there, it makes the article feel less credible to have almost an entire section with no sources. Thanks for hearing me out! Laineyh (talk) 02:55, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

Agreed. Citations have been added since your comment, but that section still seems slightly biased. JoCLee (talk) 07:49, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

CODA at 2021 Inauguration
Captain Andrea Hall of Fulton County Fire & Rescue, in South Fulton, GA led the recitation of the Pledge of Allegiance at President Biden's inauguration, simultaneously signing it in ASL. I was curious at how adept she was; she obviously did not learn ASL for the occasion. My youngest daughter tracked down the fact that Capt Hall is a CODA. She learned Black ASL (BASL) from her father, who is deaf and a graduate of the Georgia School for the Deaf (GSD). As noted in several news articles, this was a historic first, that ASL was directly incorporated into an inauguration program, rather than presented in a separate boxed side screen (as was done for the speeches, etc), We couldn't find a reputable source for the fact of Captain Hall being a CODA but I suspect that it will likely show up in Atlanta area press coverage within the next day or two. So, I put this out there in hopes that sommeone spots a source that will satisfy reputability amd allow this to be included, because I think it is a point worth adding to this piece. Irish Melkite (talk) 05:55, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

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