Talk:Children's rights

Child vs Minor

 * The term "child" does not necessarily mean minor but can include adult children as well as adult nondependent children

Does this mean we could distinguish between a children's rights article and a minors' rights article? Ranze (talk) 19:33, 1 March 2013 (UTC)


 * No they are the same 197.221.253.220 (talk) 20:41, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

Child's Right to Genital Integrity
Why does this article make no mention of children's right to genital integrity. This issue is getting a lot of attention in the news lately.DavidHGrateful (talk) 08:46, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

There is a need for a section on recent developments. Sugarcube73 (talk) 11:39, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

There is already a section "physical rights". JopV (talk) 17:41, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

Convention on Human Rights and Bioethics
This convention is a treaty to which 28 of the 47 European member-nations have ratified. There is no reason to believe that removal of healthy tissue the treaty permits removal of healthy tissue with parental consent. It regulates only medical practice. It does not regulate lay person who might perform surgery on a child.

http://www.conventions.coe.int/Treaty/Commun/ChercheSig.asp?NT=164&CM=8&DF=27/11/2013&CL=ENG

It is unlikely to be completely complied with, especially in nations like Turkey that have a long tradition of circumcision.

However, in nations like Finland, it is likely to be complied with.

It is an important document in Europe and deserves to be mentioned, perhaps with an explanatory note. Sugarcube73 (talk) 13:07, 27 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Your personal views on this are immaterial. You need to cite independent reliable secondary sources to make any of the connections you are claiming, or any of the predictions you are claiming.  Many of your recent edits to this article are problematic and need to be reviewed.   04:26, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Section Types of Rights
Under the Section of Types of Rights, I recommend an edit about saying that Humans Rights Watch does not include them in it's goals, as they do not want it to happen. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gingeroscar (talk • contribs) 19:56, 2 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Do you have a reliably sourced quote from the HRC claiming the HRC's mission intentionally excludes the rights of children? The page at http://www.hrc.org/topics/children-youth directly contradicts what you're saying.  Wikipedia is not a soapbox.  As the article indicates, the definition of children's rights varies between individuals. TricksterWolf (talk) 17:11, 29 November 2014 (UTC)

Mother's who have a breakdown and when fully recovered want there children returned.!!!
A young mother of two very young children and (through no fault of her own)had a complete breakdown.Her mother and grandmother stepped in to look after her children,and, now after 3 years is fully recovered and an A*grade student with a nice home her children want to live with there "Mammy" again This could not have come at a better time as, a month earlier her elderly grandparents looking after her little boy had rang  to say he needed to come back to her as they could no longer manage.All was arranged and put in place, then 3days before they were due to go back to their Mammy their Auntie (who works at social services)and uncle applied to a family court to have him stay with her because,unknown to his mother he had been living with them for 3 weeks and going back to his grandparents on weekends when his mammy was comming up. The mother had to go to a family court and was told she needed to travel up from south every weekend to see her son for 3 hours Saturday and Sunday for 12 weeks.Then the Judge would decide if this little boy could live with his Mother and siblings,Oh they also appointed a court social worker to liaise with the interested parties.THAT was 4 weeks ago and the child's mammy is still waiting to be contacted.WHY ????? In my opinion this should never have got as far as it has!!.IS THIS COMMON SENSE GONE MAD.!!!!. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.191.70.73 (talk) 06:41, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 21 September 2017
24.108.20.219 (talk) 03:55, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Sparkling Pessimist   Scream at me!  04:10, 21 September 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 November 2017
Include text to the section regarding "Convention on the Rights of the Child": These protections are grouped into four main themes, that include survival rights, development rights, protection rights, and participation rights (Children's Rights Alliance). The survival rights include the right to life and the basic needs for existence, such as shelter, nutrition, an adequate standard of living, and access to medical services (Children's Rights Alliance). The development rights include the right to play, leisure, education, cultural activities, freedom of religion, freedom of thought, and freedom of conscience, and access to information. The protection rights include safeguards from abuse, exploitation, and neglect (Children's Rights Alliance). These include refugees, children in the justice system, children in employment, and children in rehabilitation. The participation rights include the freedom to express their opinions, to have a say in things that affect their own lives, and to assemble peacefully (Children's Rights Alliance). Lucyyl (talk) 19:15, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

Children’s Rights Alliance. The United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child. Retrieved from http://www.childrensrights.ie/childrens-rights-ireland/un-convention-rights-child
 * Pictogram voting comment.svg Note: The section is a summary, there's standalone page for that at Convention on the Rights of the Child, please move the request there. &thinsp;&mdash; Ammarpad (talk) 20:15, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

Baby baptism
Babies don't exhibit theory of mind, neither the law accepts they are already consciously self-aware and able for critical decisions. The modern humans baptize into religions, baby humans how aren't mentally ready. This is an action against the rights of the child! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:2149:823B:1B00:7835:D0E0:4068:2D65 (talk) 00:45, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

Possible Citations
Good Day

Can we use the following citations for this Section?

Possible Citations

https://www.jstor.org/stable/10.3138/9781442687615 Children's Rights: Multidisciplinary Approaches to Participation and Protection Tom O’Neill Dawn Zinga Copyright Date: 2008 Published by: University of Toronto Press Pages: 384

Journal Article An Introduction to Children's Rights Mark Soler ABA Journal Vol. 74, No. 12 (DECEMBER 1, 1988), pp. 52-54, 56 Published by: American Bar Association https://www.jstor.org/stable/20760256

Empowering Children: Children’s Rights Education as a pathway to Citizenship R. Brian Howe and Katherine Covell University of Toronto Press 2005 https://books.google.com.ph/books?id=VOrPVHqljawC&printsec=frontcover&dq=children%27s+rights+jstor&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjXg6nZ0J7gAhUGTo8KHZUNDN8Q6AEIMTAB#v=onepage&q&f=false

Children’s Rights: Multidisciplinary Approaches to Participation and Protection Tom O’ Neill and Dawn Zinga Editors University of Toronto Press 2008 https://books.google.com.ph/books?id=1BVDkQ9pMcEC&printsec=frontcover&dq=children%27s+rights+jstor&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjXg6nZ0J7gAhUGTo8KHZUNDN8Q6AEIKjAA#v=onepage&q&f=false

Thank you

LOBOSKYJOJO (talk) 03:39, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 July 2021

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Children’s Right
Children’s rights are particularly a section of human rights that emphases attention on the right of special protection and care purveyed to minors. United Nation adopted the 1989 Convection on the Rights of the Child is the right that offers the welfare of every child, safeguarding them from abuse and exploitation. Children’s right summons right to basic need for physical protection, unpaid education, healthcare, development- thus have the right to live and to develop suitably physically and intellectually, equal protection of the child’s civil right and freedom from any sort of discrimination as such gender, religion, disability or national origin. The most important factor for acknowledging children right is realizing right to identity.

There exist innumerable government schemes and development programs to upgrade these children from inequalities and provide a secure future but due to lack of awareness and backwardness they lack all such opportunities provided to them. Each and every voice is important and must be heard and respected in all matters concerning his or her rights. Div.daisy (talk) 10:23, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

Requested move 30 March 2022

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 

The result of the move request was: not moved   Calidum  02:34, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

Children's rights → Child rights – Human rights isn't human's rights so why should this page be children's rights and not child rights? Jishiboka1 (talk) 04:28, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Oppose. I can understand the wish for consistency, but Googling suggests that children's rights is a far more common phrase than child rights. Also, we have Women's rights, Men's rights movement, etc. No change is needed.  Pepper Beast    (talk)  11:18, 30 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Oppose. Clear common name and flawed nomination, as human is here used as an adjective (and therefore is fine before a noun) whereas child can only be used as a noun (and therefore looks odd before another noun). -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:09, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Oppose. Googling around found most major organizations (Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch) use "children's rights", while organizations that use "child rights" (UNICEF) also use "children's rights" about half the time. SimLibrarian (talk) 18:57, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Oppose. Ngrams suggests that "Children's rights" is the WP:COMMONNAME. BilledMammal (talk) 07:00, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Oppose per above. The current title is the common name. Rreagan007 (talk) 01:49, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

Reverting...
Once again, I'm reverting User:Wadada007's edits. I think the comments are well out of the context of the article itself, and that while the ref inserted does contain material about different attitudes to children's upbringing, it's extremely narrowly-focussed and WP:UNDUE. Pepper Beast   (talk)  22:07, 6 April 2022 (UTC)


 * PepperBeast, STOP PERSONAL ATTACKS!!! "Extremely narrowly-focussed" perspective is highly needed voice in academia and not a weakness in itself. It has something to offer. So, stop your personal attacks on maginalized voices. Could you tell me what how the following can be described as "out of context", please:[[Contexts matter because there is a decline in physical punishment and patriarchal fatherhood in Ireland (a western country) compared with the duality of legacies of patriarchal fatherhood and broader societal acceptance of physical punishment in Ghana (a non-Western country).]]. Tell me? Wadada007 (talk) 22:45, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
 * OK, tell us what you think your insertion adds. What does it help to contextualize? What contexts need to be considered? How exactly does a comparison of Irish and Ghanaian attitudes to childrearing in the 30s and 40s help us to understand children's rights?   Pepper Beast    (talk)  23:53, 6 April 2022 (UTC)