Talk:Chinchilla/Archive 1

Categorization
It seems the first half of the Chinchilla page is a standard encyclopedic entry, while the second half of the page is more domestication/pet notes. At the time of my reading this page, it seemed necessary to me to enter some caegorizing headlines in order to separate these two disctinct sections (ie: Chinchillas as household pets), no?

An anonymous user just changed the lifespan of chinchillas from 15 to 25 years. Now, a long lifespan is always good, but isn't 25 years a bit too optimistic? Can anyone point to a source that will validate either the 15 or 25 number? Nyh 06:52, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Maybe with good veterniary care they can live longer. Kind of like how many giant breed dogs can now live longer (up 10 yrs instead of 8). But an additional ten years sounds a little too optimistic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.59.23.44 (talk) 19:41, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Jumping height?
It is listed as one foot, but anyone who has had a chin knows this is quite short compared to the actual jumping ability of chinchillas. I've personally seen chins jump slightly in excess of three feet.

Chinchillas also jump off walls in a "Matrix-like" manner. If scared or worried, they will run and bounce off of a nearby wall. Chinchillas will occasionally 'twitch' by pouncing upward. It appears they get 'chills' like humans do.

Mine does that too. Its to turn around faster. She'll run at a wall kick it and turn around. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 154.20.2.16 (talk) 07:09, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

>>>Some chinchillas can actually jump to a height of 5 ft from a standing position.

Spraying?
Do/can some Chins really spray urine up to six feet?
 * Females can spray according to a book i have.. although it doesn't indicate distance. -max rspct 13:50, 2 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Six feet is probably too far; I'd say about 2 ft (at most) at about a 30 degree arc from horizontal, which is where the genitals end up when they stand on their hind feet.OrderSponge 08:06, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

I have a cat scratcher with ledges at 1 ft intervals. All three of my Chinchillas have successfully leaping from ground level to the ledge at 4 ft. They leap it with considerable ease.

Fur density
"In fact, they have the highest fur density of any animal on earth with more than 20,000 hairs per square cm." This contradicts the entry for Otter, as well as the Monterey Bay Aquarium, which give the hair density of the sea otter as one million per square inch, or 155,000 per square centimeter.
 * This is correct: at least the otter, and possibly other mustelids, have denser fur.OrderSponge 08:03, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Spraying Urine
Chinchillas do spray urine as a defense mechanism, but they do not have very big bladders.Some have never seen a chinchilla capable of spraying farther than about one and one-half feet, and by then it is just a few droplets. Between zero and one foot, they can be exceedingly accurate if they are smart. If they are not so smart, they might hide behind something and the spray backfires.

I have had eight pet chinchillas, four males and four females. So far, only six of them, that I know of, have attempted to spray. Three of the four females (knock on wood) sprayed with great accuracy. Three of the four males sprayed and either nothing came out, or only a dribble came out, or they sprayed themselves by accident. The fourth male was given to a friend after he was weaned, so I do not know whether he ever sprayed. Spraying occurred very infrequently when the chinchillas grew past two or three years. One male would squat and urinate on the rug in my line of site whenever he was angry with me.

I do not know why spraying urine is a defense mechanism. It never prevented anything from happening for which I was sprayed (the urine is not very strong in smell). In dominance "fights" it never fazed either combatant, and my using a spray water bottle never made any difference in my chinchillas' behavior. Whenever I tell my friends about my chinchillas spraying urine as a defense, they roll on the floor laughing.


 * I've only seen one of my four chinchillas spray urine, and it actually had a significant effect. A male was chasing a female around outside the cage, where they would frequently spat (inside the cage, they were fine...go figure). She must've gotten tired of it, because she stopped running away, turned around, and blasted him right in the face. He sort of stopped, like he was just blown away by it, and then they never had trouble again. They even had babies. OrderSponge 20:59, 27 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Urine is not a very strong smell to you, but not to chinchillas who have a more acute sense of smell. Strong smells and odors are very prominent to them. It's how they "see." They can identify each other by smell. My chinchillas actually have separate corners where they go to the bathroom. They would take a sniff at one corner and turn around as if to say, "Oops. Nope. Not mine." Urine is also used as a territory marker. That's why chinchillas who are not cage mates have to meet in a neutral area, so there is no "dominant scent." They can actually be very territorial and violent if they smell an "invader" inside their cage. I guess the urine-as-a-defense thing might have something to do with territory, and being marked by another chinchilla's smell. Oh, and I have one NASTY female chinchilla who can shoot urine for about five feet. We found spray marks on the wall. We call her "Sniper." :-P Rumpelstiltzkin 06:49, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

I know they also spit as a defense. Dora Nichov 03:36, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

physical characteristics?
Shouldn't there be information such as how big they can get, how much they can weigh, etc.?

Chins can grow up to 1kg in weight

I was under the impression these things were the size of mice, maybe rats, then I GISed them and saw some photos that made them look much larger.

Not to mention I can't imagine something jumping five feet vertically if it isn't fairly large. Sdr 10:19, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I've seen several Chinchillas clear four feet high (accurately measured) from a standing start. It wouldn't surprise me if in extreme situations they could jump five feet.

In my experience chinchillas tend to be about 500 g. I've never taken the time to measure one. Raw numbers are pretty meaningless, anyway. Perhaps someone could take a picture of a chinchilla next to a soda can? StradivariusTV 05:00, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

A healthy chinchilla should weigh between 550 g and 750 g. The female generally weighing 50-100 gms more than her male counterpart. This is also reflected in the slight disparity in size difference between genders with the female noticeably (at least to regular Chinchilla handlers) larger.

My 6 month old can jump about 4 ft, but my over-1-year can jump only about 2.5 ft. The younger one is approximately 8 oz, the larger is 2 lb. I don't know how to put in a photo here, otherwise I'd put the one of my larger chin, Pepper, but I'd say he's the size of a box of kleenex (the kind that are long rather than high). When I got my younger chin, he was the size of a young medium fancy rat, which is small considering his age, though he was the runt. He's now bigger than a medium sized rat, maybe the size of a coffee cup if you lie it on it's side.Narnibird 20:58, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

I agree that this article is severely lacking in not including a size and weight range of the creatures. Tom (talk) 10:45, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Diet
In the wild chinchillas have been observed eating plants, fruits, seeds, and small insects; however, attempting to simulate or feed this formula in captivity can lead to serious illness or even death. Why?
 * Because domestic chinchillas are not used to this type of food. In general, domestic chinchillas are fed some type of pellet with a main ingredient of hay. Giving your chinchilla something its stomach has likely never had before can wreak havoc on their, already extremely sensitive, digestive system. --pIrish 22:06, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

This is slightly extreme. Chinchillas diet is more varied than just the standard Chinchilla pellet mentioned here. Their penchant for raisins is well known as well as dried fruit like apple and banana. In my experience they are also well capable of digesting fresh and dried herbs like basil and mint without suffering any digestive problems.


 * The primary domestic chinchilla diet is hay-based. Their pellets are made mostly of hay and they should be given a constant supply of hay. This is because their diets have adapted since the days when they roamed free and ate bugs. The chinchilla's digestive system is very, very sensitive. If you give them one too many raisins, they get diarrhea. If you give them a lettuce leaf, they could get bloat. If you give them a peanut (besides the problems with fungus, which is why seeds are also typically a no-no), it could give them hepatic lipidosis.


 * While they can handle minimal amounts of treats, they shouldn't be given more than, say, a raisin once every few days, just to be on the safe side. They also shouldn't be given fresh veggies/fruits or foods high in fat at all. Dried, mild herbs are ok for the most part since they are a dry plant and don't contain a lot of water (which is the main reason they can't have fresh veggies/fruit, there's just too much water in one serving for them to handle and it can lead to bloat). The biggest thing about this though is that the treat isn't for them, it's for us. We give them the treat for our own amusement. They're cute when they beg for it or hold it in their paws. They don't need it and can live a long and healthy life without it. Why risk giving them problems? If you feel you must give them treats, it must be done sparingly with the appropriate treats in the appropriate amounts. --pIrish 16:38, 12 April 2007 (UTC)


 * There is no way they have 'adapted' to a "domestic diet" in the amount of time they have been domesticated. Dogs have been fed kibble-crap for close to a hundred years, and still do best on a raw meat diet. I'm removing this claim as the reference contains a mention only of their wild diet, not that the wild diet is 'dangerous' for domestic chinchillas. --andrew leahey 16:55, 18 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I changed the wording a little. It's not that they adapted to it, it's that they were already eating it. They were already eating dry plants (hence, why they easily adjusted to hay) in the wild before they were domesticated. Their diets have, however, adjusted to being fed this, and only this, and stuff like bugs and fruits could irritate their systems (just like a long term vegetarian can usually tell when they've eaten something with meat in it because they feel ill; their bodies just aren't adjusted to it). I also added a citation stating hay/pellet based is best. I will try re-wording it a bit more though. --pIrish Arr! 17:31, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

under the "chinchillas as pets" section, the 2nd sentence in the last paragraph says, "A high quality, hay-based pellet and a constant supply of loose hay will sufficiently meet all of their dietary needs." Yet in the same paragraph's last sentence, "High protein foods and hay (such as alfalfa) can cause liver problems and should be limited." Does the person(s) who wrote the paragraph have any grasp of English, or logic for that matter? Maybe it's alfalfa specifically that is bad for chinchillas, but to say that hay meets the dietary needs and then follow up with hay causes liver problems is illogical. 211.179.47.182 (talk) 10:49, 8 November 2010 (UTC)


 * It should specify that timothy hay is the loose hay to be used, over alfalfa, as it is lower in protein. Please also remember that many people edit this page and commenting on peoples' grasp of English and logic is both too generalized and uncivil as there could have been many people editing the section, possibly not even noticing the disconnect. Comment on the content, not the contributers. --132 19:25, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

most expensive?
Is it the most expensive fur?

There should be more fur entries in this article, I think this fur is more valued than mink

If you have ever fully researched, the fur is more expensive that a minks.Crystal

I'd rather this regrettable misuse of healthy, intelligent animals was not mentioned at all.


 * Unfortunately, this is an encyclopedia and not a personal webpage. Thus, information cannot be censored and this includes the fact that chinchillas are used for their fur. No matter how much you disagree with it (I do too), the information must remain since it is very valid. --pIrish 14:28, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

A fair point, sir.

White chinchilla
I have a picture of myown chinchilla and I think that it could be used in the article since all the chinshillas are grey. Just send me a message if you want me to upload the image. --Krm500 00:53, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Edible? Cute?
Are they eaten in South America like the Cuy or the Guinea pig. I wouldn't eat them... maybe I would. They are so cute though.


 * I wouldn't think so, not as a regular thing anyway. At least not now, though I'm sure it was common a while ago. They're extremely protected nowadays because they're nearly extinct in the wild. --pIrish 12:08, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

They're cute and soo pettable. Should something be added to reflect them as cute pets?
 * No as that would go under the category of original research which is against policy. It's also rather unencyclopedic. --pIrish 17:33, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
 * It's not that unencyclopedic, see cuteness. Malamockq 17:01, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Cuteness by itself isn't, but with regard to this animal, it is. It's also very biased. I know plenty of people who think they're ugly. --pIrish 21:18, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Which is also original research Malamockq 07:06, 18 April 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.152.210.18 (talk) 16:25, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

That doesn't make saying chinchillas are cute justifiable, either. KiwiiTOS (talk) 08:32, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Whether they're cute or not is a matter of opinion. Groundlord (talk) 17:07, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Discuss links here
Editors regularly clean out undiscussed links from this article. Please discuss here if you want a link not to be cleaned out regularly. (You can help!)

The external links section was starting to get out of hand. We should have only a few outside links, at the most. Please see External Links for more information on what outside links are appropriate. These are the edits I made to this section and my reasoning behind each:
 * Save the Wild Chinchillas - This is one of the only sites on the internet that is directly related to chinchillas in the wild. If any links should stay, this one should be it.
 * Chinchilla Library - deleted it. Most of the books listed are extremely out-of-date and even out-of-print. Some of the books weren't in English and it really doesn't give us any extra information on the little guys so it's rather irrelevant.
 * Chincare - I'm leaving it...for now. It has decent information on chinchillas and it has a good section on chinchilla rescuing. The only reason I'm iffy on this one is because it advertises a lot of products all while giving information (which I'm sure they're making money on) so I'm really not to sure which way to go with this one. If nobody objects, I'll delete it at the end of the week.
 * Chinchilla Club - I took it out. I know it's one of the first hits on google, but it's a product-based e-store where breeders can mingle. There is hardly any outside information and is, therefore, irrelevant to the article. Also, any information it does contain, simply links you to an outside website.
 * Chinchillas.com - Deleted. While the site does contain some information, it is not really intended for someone who knows little about the breed and it looking to learn. It is primarily breeder based and it's primary goal is to auction of chinchillas, not to educate.
 * Chinchilla-Lexikon - Not in English. Deleted. If it is in English, I can't find it and that page should be linked, not the non-English homepage.
 * Garden City Chinchillas - I'm going to keep it because it offers valuable information on color mutations within the species that isn't covered in the article. It also shows pictures of all the mutations, which is very unique compared to nearly all other sites. However, being a breeder's site created for advertisement, the link must go to this page and not the home page.

If anyone disagrees with any of these, please discuss it before adding it back or deleting it. We need to keep it down to a maximum of five, otherwise it starts looking cluttered. Also, I have this page on my watchlist, so don't worry about messaging me. Discussion here would be fine. Thanks. --pIrish 21:02, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Cheeky Chinchillas - I'm keeping it. It has lots of information on how to keep chinchillas as pets and extra information on them. Also has a very good page on chinchilla health problems. While this is a breeder's site, the homepage links to chinchilla information intended to promote the well-being of the animal instead of advertising their service.
 * Chins-N-Quills - I added this. I figure it would be good to have at least one link that sends people somewhere where they can ask questions about their pets that they can't find anywhere else online.


 * Links to forums are specifically considered not appropriate, per WP:EL. I'm removing Chins-N-Quills. CiaranG 23:13, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
 * That's fine. I wasn't sure whether to put it in or not to begin with so that's fine by me. --pIrish 01:19, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
 * The forum link should be removed altogether please. We can not testify to credibility of information provided on forums. This is a disaster waiting to happen, then who's liable? Guest 14:12, 4 July 2007

There is a new scientific study that for the first-time categorizes chinchilla sounds. To date there have only been hobby sound-tracks WITHOUT scientific basis. I am trying to add the scientific source -also in English translation and along with English abstract - numerous times. It gets deleted. Please explain why a scientifically based study keeps being substituted by hobby sound impressions. I thought Wikipedia aspires good knowhow, improved knowhow etc.

Frankly, it is truly frustrating to contribute scientific knowledge on this basis. This link would help to put the wiki entry on chinchillas on a higher level. It gets deleted??? Maybe that's why Wiki cannot be quoted on a scientific basis regarding this replacement policy. I am sorry, but I do not understand, why hobby and laymen homepage sound tracks are accepted, but scientifically based sound tracks in Englisch language are not. And keep being deleted????

Wiki is frustrating.

I think a link to Chinchilla Sounds would be a great feature, a whole section discussing their sounds would be even better. It would be nice to get a better understanding of what their sounds mean. Heres a link to sounds Chinchillas make. http://www.plentyoftorrents.com/flsh/soundboards/chinchillas
 * I'm sorry, but that link does not pass WP:EL. If you want specific reasons, just let me know. --132 04:36, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Well its not my site so I'm not trying to promote it. I just think it would be educational for people who want to know what the Chinchillas yelps and chirps mean. It would only be the second link in the external links section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 154.20.2.16 (talk) 04:58, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * First, the link would be the third in the list, not the second. We don't need more links just to have more links. Second, the site is hosted on a torrent site, which makes me automatically not trust it. Third, the information within it is original research. Nothing is sourced, it's all just one person's opinion about their sounds. Fourth, there are better chinchilla sound sites out there. We used to link to a German site with better information, but it was taken down because it was in German. There's one person above ranting about us not including their "scientific" link on chinchilla sounds, but the link wasn't actually scientific at all. It's tough to find good external links, especially since the internet is flooded with chinchilla sites by every Bob and Jane who likes them. --132 12:57, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Confusing
The article says that they don't like being held and then sayys that they like eing held. Aside from individual variation, whcih is more correct? --Scottandrewhutchins 14:32, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
 * In general, they don't like being held. If you want to point out where this is, I could change it or you can go ahead and change it if you want. --pIrish 17:40, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
 * It depends on the chinchilla. Some of mine like being held. Four of them will actually jump out of their cage into my hands, the other three would resist but would let me pick them up and occasionally hop into my hands on their own. My friends' chin completely ignore her. It just depends on the animal's personality and their comfort level when it comes to the humans. I think article should just say that chinchillas differ per individual. Rumpelstiltzkin 23:01, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Question to Rumpel, as a chinchilla owner: Can they be kept out of their cages, like cats and dogs? Do they get along with cats? --Flvg94 17:24, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Not really. You have to chin-proof your house so they can't chew on anything (furniture, wires, etc). It's also a lot easier for them to sneak out of an open door than a cat or dog would and they would likely bolt for it rather than just sticking around the house like most dogs and cats. While, yes, I suppose they could be kept outside of a cage, it's probably not the smartest thing to do (plus they can't be housetrained (nearly impossible) so you'd have their poops/pee everywhere).


 * It's a no-go on the cats. While there are some chinchillas and cats that get along, for the most part, the cat's instinct will kick in and it'll go chinchilla hunting. If you let your two pets play to try to get along, it would have to be under strict supervision and they can never, ever be left alone.


 * If you have a question to ask as specific user, leave it on their personal talk page. If you leave it here, anyone will answer it, like I have done. --pIrish 17:31, 22 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks, that was very concise. I doubt Rumpel coulhave done a better job answering that :) . --ThrowingStick/ Talk 14:51, 25 February 2007 (UTC)


 * What pIrish said. :-) Plus, they have would urinate. Though their urine is not as smelly as a rabbit, it's still not pleasant. You can let them out in an enclosed, controlled and supervized area for exercise. Like a hallway with all the doors closed and the end the blocked off by either a person or a tall enough barrier. The guys jump like crazy so at least 6 ft. Mine can clear 5 ft box easy. Rumpelstiltzkin 21:13, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Disambiguation?
The disambiguation bit at the start of this article seems unwieldy and long. Should we create Chinchilla (disambiguation)? Mermaid from the Baltic Sea 04:03, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
 * It used to be really short, but now it's gotten a little out of hand. I'd like to see it return to that state, but I think a disambig page, with this page being the default and this one linking to the disambig page, may be the best route to take. --pIrish 13:43, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
 * That seems like a good solution. Obviously, this article as the default is best. Mermaid from the Baltic Sea 18:28, 4 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Ok, I've just done it at Chinchilla (disambiguation). Any corrections would be appreciated. Mermaid from the Baltic Sea 02:52, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Looks good to me! Thanks! --pIrish 13:29, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Females are softer?
Female Chinchillas also are 1.4235 times softer then males and are more frequently used in coats.

how does on measure the softness of the fur? and hos to such precision of 1/1000 ? --Tricksj 22:50, 30 January 2007 (UTC)tircksj
 * There's a little tool you can use to measure the thickness of very fine materials. My dad uses one all the time at work and he brought it home once so we could see how thick my hair was compared to my chinchilla's. So, yes, it is possible to measure how thin it is which will give you a guesstimate about how soft it will be. However, that statistic sounds like a bunch of bull to me. I'm glad someone's already taken it out of the article.


 * Before I forget, make sure you ask a new question with a new heading. It makes for better organization on the talk page and it'll likely be answered more quickly than it would it you just tack it on to the end of a pre-existing conversation. --pIrish 02:12, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Housing chinchillas with degus
We are successfully housing a juvenile chinchilla with a pair of degus, since they seem to get along and have the same dietary restrictions. Comments or concerns, anyone? Discpad 15:50, 4 March 2007 (UTC) Dan Schwartz & Adria Friedman, New Jersey.


 * If you say it works, it probably does. Here in Sweden however, the only mammal species that can legally be kept in the same cage are rabbits and guinea pigs. Probably for a good reason. --Oskila 21:58, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Chinchillas can be aggressive and kill other 'things' in their cage. Housing chinchillas with other animals is not advised as they should be on a formulated chinchilla diet and they can pick up diseases from other animals they are not accustomed to fighting. Chins should be kept with chins alone.


 * It's possible, but as with housing rabbits and guinea pigs together there are risks involved. For example rabbits and guinea pigs have different nutritional requirements and need different pellet foods that can cause problems for the other animal.  They can also spread germs to each other; in this case guinea pigs don't have natural resistance to rabbit germs and vice versa, making treatment difficult.  They also have different group dynamics and may not get along with the other species too well.  However despite those problems it is possible to keep them together.  I would think the same applies to chins and degus.  Just be aware of the risks and be prepared to separate them if needed.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.59.23.44 (talk) 19:37, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Mixed Breed?
I saw somewhere that a Chinchilla is a Hybrid betweeen a Rabbit and Rat. Does this happen to be true?
 * No. --pIrish 00:40, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

No, rabbits and rats are not even in the same family, and hybridization only occurs in closely related species. You're more likely to have a mouse/rat hybrid (which are in the same family) than a rabbit/rat hybrid. The only reason people say chins are a rabbit/rat hybrid is because they look like a mixture of a rat and a rabbit. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.59.23.44 (talk) 19:27, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Diet: avoiding any sugars
The feeding section lists the raisin as an acceptable treat, which is (at minimum)dubious, because of the chinchilla and their first cousin, the degu are very prone to induced diabetes. It would be good to get the opinion of a vet in on this one. Discpad 15:50, 4 March 2007 (UTC) Dan Schwartz & Adria Friedman, New Jersey.
 * To answer your question, raisins are absolutely acceptable in SMALL amounts as a treat. Small amounts is the key. They can have one here and there, they just can't have them all the time. Similar to a dog. You give them too many treats and the dog gets fat and gets diabetes. To include an opinion of a vet would be original research unless it was published in a reliable source. No reason to take the information out, though it may be a good idea to really stress the importance of them only having them occasionally. --pIrish 16:29, 4 March 2007 (UTC)


 * NO! Chinchillas are about as sensitive to sugar-induced diabetes as their cousin, the degu. I'll have to get a reference on this, as this is what my friend (who has 2 degus sharing a cage with a chinchilla) was told by her vet, who is also a vet on staff at the Staten Island Zoo. In any case, despite this being an encyclopedia, often people will use this as a primary source; and the last thing we want is to put bad diet info in this article. Discpad 18:45, 5 March 2007 (UTC) Dan Schwartz


 * I actually own a chinchilla (which is NOT genetically identical to a degu!) whose previous vet works for the Indianapolis Zoo and his current vet works for the Mesker Park Zoo (does this make mine any more or less reliable than yours?) and I know many chinchilla breeders, as in, people who breed dozens of them, not just own one. I have never been told otherwise about raisins. Just because your friend's vet said something, doesn't necessarily make it true (that's backward logic). Yes, their digestive systems are sensitive, I'm not denying that, but they aren't going to be thrown completely out of whack by one raisin every few days and they aren't likely going to get diabetes from that small amount either. Please do more research! --pIrish 19:07, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I just googled "chinchilla diabetes raisin" and these are the top six hits (not including this wiki article):, , , , , . Not one of them says that raisins are diabetes-inducing killers that shouldn't ever be fed to your chinchilla, but they ALL say that they should be given in small amounts as sparingly as you can so you don't compromise the chinchilla's health if you give them too many. I'm not even going to list the hundreds of hits "chinchilla raisin" gets that all say the exact same thing. --pIrish 19:20, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
 * And another reply. You added info into the article that chinchillas can have fresh veggies just like their cousin the degu. Once again, you are assuming that both creatures are identical in digestive needs, when they aren't. It's important that chinchillas have as few fresh veggies as possible as they are loaded with water. Chinchillas come from the desert where everything is extremely dry and water is hard to come by so the plants they have adapted to eating are dry (which is why hay is fine for them). Too much water in their system could hurt them and it's far easier to overdo these than it is raisins. Most vets and breeders would never even consider giving their pets these foods, let alone suggest it. References to this:, , , , , , and . --pIrish 22:31, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Exercise wheel
Take a look at United States patent number 6,578,526 and the related drawings (A TIFF viewer browser plug-in is required to see drawings). Discpad 19:11, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Too improve this article
This article is mixing genius, species and domestic chinchillas. It could be improved using the french fitured one and sub-pages: Chinchillas, chinchilla lanigera, chinchilla brevicaudata, domestic chinchillas or at least the external references in English linked from those pages. --Salixen 23:33, 23 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I think this article is sufficient, I really don't want us to have to have three pages for each type, I think that would get a little confusing. However, this page really does need sections talking about the individual types since we currently don't have them, I'm not even sure it's really even briefly mentioned. Actually, the article really needs a complete overhaul to it in general. I'd love to work on it, but with school, it's hard for me to get a lot of time to do it. --pIrish 00:19, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

There is a new scientific study that for the first-time categorizes chinchilla sounds. To date there have only been hobby sound-tracks WITHOUT scientific basis. I am trying to add the scientific source -also in English translation and along with English abstract - numerous times. It gets deleted. Please explain why a scientifically based study keeps being substituted by hobby sound impressions. I thought Wikipedia aspires good knowhow, improved knowhow etc.

Frankly, it is truly frustrating to contribute scientific knowledge on this basis. This link would help to put the wiki entry on chinchillas on a higher level. It gets deleted??? Maybe that's why Wiki cannot be quoted on a scientific basis regarding this replacement policy. I am sorry, but I do not understand, why hobby and laymen homepage sound tracks are accepted, but scientifically based sound tracks in Englisch language are not. And keep being deleted????

Wiki is frustrating. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.152.210.18 (talk) 16:32, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Ok, I am not good at tech stuff. But isn't it content that should matter and make a difference, rather than names? I provided scientific content. I am happy to also provide personal information and contact information about myself. However, I do not understand why this has any impact on scientific facts provided here. Sad. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.152.210.18 (talk) 17:34, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.152.210.18 (talk) 17:34, 2 October 2007 (UTC) Whatever that means??!?

I give up. Just stay on a scientific low level - a layman level. It is Wiki Level. Waste of time. Well, who cares...

Article re-write...of sorts
Some of you may know me as the editor that watches this page like a hawk and edits it mercilessly on occasion. I've had a lot of concerns about the article itself including the lack of citations, original research, and the fact that almost the entire article is basically an instruction manual/texbook for how to take care of chinchillas, which is against Wikipedia policy.

Due to these concerns, I've started re-writing the article. At the moment, I'm trying to include as much of the current article as I can, but I'm trying to make it more organized so it will flow better and look more professional. I'm trying to break up the intro into specific sections (like history, native habitat, and the fur trade). I'm trying to shrink the guidebook part of the article (How to keep a pet chinchilla!) so it is just a small section instead of the bulk of the article. I'm also trying to tack on as many citations as I can possibly find to make the article more reliable and get away from the original research feel of it.

What I'm asking any of you who watch this page or happen to stumble on this message is to help out if you can. The biggest thing I'm looking for are ideas for sections or information we may be missing from the current article (other than the fur trade stuff, I've already started expanding on that). To make this more reliable, if you can suggest any particular sites with really good information, I would be really grateful for the help. I plan on trying to get this new version up toward the beginning of next week. Remember, it's not a complete re-write, it's more of a moving-information-around-and-making-it-more-encyclopedic sort of thing. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! --pIrish 16:04, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * You can benefit of months of work I did in collaboration with the chilean and american specialists of chinchillas. You'll find many information in english from here, from here, from here and from here. Be carefull many websites are telling wrong information, that's wy I had to ask specalists to help on the frensh pages ! --Salixen 07:55, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I used a few of the links that I found on those sites. Thanks for the help! --pIrish 14:25, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

All right, I just put up the new version. Hopefully it follows Wikipedia standards more closely. I've got about 20 citations, which is 20 more than we had before. I contracted the how-to section about keeping chinchillas as pets since Wikipedia is not a guidebook. I broke the intro up since it was way too long into sections about their history, their native environment, the species, and the fur industry. I also cut the external links down to the two most prominent. I deleted a few pictures to make it look less cluttered and replaced the picture in the infobox with a picture of an entire chinchilla (you can see his head, body, and tail).

Let me know what you think. If you have any concerns, don't be hesitant about leaving them here so we can talk about them. I'm always up for discussing improvements to the article. --pIrish 14:25, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * If anyone's interested, the family Chinchillidae, the genus Chinchilla and the two species all need their own artitcles. So that's four in total.  This page should stay with whatever species is kept as a pet or, if both are, the genus Chinchilla.  --Aranae 14:40, 16 April 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure splitting would be the best way to go. I think there would be a lot of repeat information in the articles, which, in itself, would indicate that splitting isn't necessary. If the repeat information isn't included, then I fear the articles would be labelled as stubs. I'm all for more expanded, lengthened sections within the this article about each species instead of the little sub-section it's got right now, but I don't think splitting would be the best idea. At least, I don't think it is at the moment. If enough unique information about each species can be built up to form a full article (not a stub), then I think that would be ok. Until then, I think we should just expand on this article with seperate sections for each species.


 * Do understand, however, that I am not completely familiar with the seperate species. What I included in the current version is what I could find; nothing more, nothing less. If the species really are drastically different enough to need seperate articles instead of seperate sections, then please do let me know and point me in the right direction to where I can find more information than I've already got. Considering I want this article to be listed as a good article and, eventually, a featured article, I do want to see improvements. If this really could help, I would appreciate all the help I could get that would aid in my understanding of the seperate species. Thank you. --pIrish 15:46, 16 April 2007 (UTC)


 * I completely disagree. The article needs to be split.  If not, the chinchillids become the only extant group of mammals in WP:MAM that are pooled into a single page instead of split into several.  Find another page where it's pooled like this and you'll find a WP:TOLer who is planning to split it up some day.  There are a few fossil taxa where that's may be true, but not something as well studied as chinchillids.  This page is only vaguely relevant to viscachas, but due to a historic artifact in article creation, Chinchillidae redirects here.  It's rather simple.  If both species are kept as pets, then the pet related info belongs at Chinchilla and the species pages are for specifics of biology, distribution, etc.  If only one is, then that gets the pet-related info and the others refer to the biology of the genus as a whole and of that species.  --Aranae 16:50, 16 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Please see Viscacha as an example of another page where there aren't seperate species pages and, instead, they are all lumped together in one article...and it's not tagged. However, that aside, after skimming through numerous articles, I do think we should split off and create stubs for the other two species. However (another one), I do not think we need four. I think three pages are suitable enough (one for each species, plus one for the domestic chinchilla and general history/break-off to the other two species) as this seems to be what various other pet pages, like Hamster and Gerbil, do as well. They have a main page about the domestic animal that tells the history and links to the other species. Also, Chinchillidae shouldn't be a redirect to here (it should be a disambiguation sort of page, this could be a type of fourth page you were talking about?), but I'm not the one who did that. --pIrish 17:39, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * The family page is what I was referring to as the fourth page. One for each species, one for the genus, and one for the family.  They don't all have to be created at once.  We seem to be in agreement so I won't press the issue, but viscacha is set up with red links to the various species pages and for the two genus pages who will all be getting their own articles someday.  --Aranae 18:21, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm happy you finely decided to split this article. It will help you to right it properly and more easily... It's exactly the same case as Rat : you have the Rattus page, the fancy rat page and pages for each species. Be carefull, the image used on Chinchilla brevicaudata page is a pet domestic hybrid chinchilla. You have on commons another one with a wild animal. However it's a good start ! Think that you can contribute with those pages to save the last wild animals in Chile : it's our responsability to inform all the world and we must be quick ! --Salixen 23:10, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

I do believe the human range of hearing is 20 Hz to 20,000 Hz. I was confused by the statement that the chinchilla's hearing range is close to that of a human at 20 Hz to 30 Hz. If it were 20 Hz to 30,000 Hz, the statement would be logical. As it is, it would seem more appropriate to state not that they are similar, but that the chinchilla's hearing range falls in the lower end of human hearing, making it useful as an animal model for audition research. Amoraff (talk) 14:53, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Adding a link
I added a link of a new site with good info about Pet Chinchillas, I saw the warning about posting here first after i edited the page. The site is non comercial one, I found useful info about chinchillas there.


 * I've removed it. The site produces no information from Alexa. The information is also extremely basic and is either already talked about here on this article or is contained in the more frequently visited and more informative chincare.com which is already listed here. --74.137.225.219 20:20, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

There is a new scientific study that for the first-time categorizes chinchilla sounds. www.chinchillasounds.de AND / OR http://www.freewebs.com/chinchillapost/cpenglish.htm To date there have only been hobby sound-tracks WITHOUT scientific basis. I am trying to add the scientific source -also in English translation and along with English abstract - numerous times. It gets deleted. Please explain why a scientifically based study keeps being substituted by hobby sound impressions. I thought Wikipedia aspires good knowhow, improved knowhow etc.

Frankly, it is truly frustrating to contribute scientific knowledge on this basis. This link would help to put the wiki entry on chinchillas on a higher level. It gets deleted??? Maybe that's why Wiki cannot be quoted on a scientific basis regarding this replacement policy. I am sorry, but I do not understand, why hobby and laymen homepage sound tracks are accepted, but scientifically based sound tracks in Englisch language are not. And keep being deleted????

Wiki is frustrating. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.152.210.18 (talk) 16:35, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Ok, I am not good at tech stuff. But isn't it content that should matter and make a difference, rather than names? I provided scientific content. I am happy to also provide personal information and contact information about myself. However, I do not understand why this has any impact on scientific facts provided here. Sad.


 * The link for chinchilla sounds is currently being used as a reference, which is perfectly acceptable for what you are suggesting. It doesn't have to be used and a reference AND be listed in the external links section. That's just overkill. It also makes its importance known by being a reference that cites a fact within the article. --199.8.170.4 18:40, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok, scratch that. You are making absolutely no sense here. Say what you mean, rather than ramble on and on about how terrible Wikipedia is for not allowing your site to be listed. The chinchillas.de site is being used as a reference and is perfectly suitable to use as a reference. The site you've listed here (the freewebs one) is absolutely not acceptable. The fact that it's being hosted on a free site shows that. Just because you call yourself an expert doesn't make you one. Surely these experts have published their findings in reputable sources? If they have, those can be used. Until then, this site is original research and shouldn't be linked to. --199.8.170.4 18:46, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Pre-Columbian use
did Andean civilizations not breed the Chinchilla for its coat or meat? Any reason why not? --86.148.57.131 (talk) 01:04, 8 January 2008 (UTC)


 * They probably did, but you'll be hard put to find a source. --199.8.170.58 (talk) 01:16, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Crepuscular or Nocturnal?
This article says "Chinchillas are nocturnal and typically do not like to be disturbed during the day". Our article on crepuscular includes chins in that category. Do chinchillas prefer to be active in pitch darkness, ca. 10 PM to 3 AM, or in low light, ca. 8 PM or 4 AM (depending on the season)? 69.205.62.61 (talk) 23:17, 30 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, I can talk of my personal experience as I have one. My chin will progressively become more active as the sun sets, and will be very active during the whole night. 4AM-6AM is the playtime peak. Hús  ö  nd  23:39, 30 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Chinchillas are crepuscular, not nocturnal. They are most active at dusk and dawn. --74.137.224.33 (talk) 17:43, 5 May 2008 (UTC)


 * My chins are most active in the middle of the night. They start to move around as the sun sets, but most of their jumping and playing occurs between 12-4. Once the sun starts to rise, they calm, and they're usually sleeping by 7. Lara  ❤  Love  22:22, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Resource Consent?
Due to the perceived threat to environmental and societal stability in the unique ecosystem of the central east coast of the North Island of New Zealand, the Gisborne District Council has classified the farming of Chinchilla as a "Prohibited Activity" for which no resource consent application will be entertained. The precise nature of the threat posed by Chinchilla is not elucidated in any official documentation. See clause 29.9.5.1 of the Gisborne District Plan. Can anyone point to any similar Chinchilla bans? Particularly any that have been successfully challenged?122.57.38.172 (talk) 08:47, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Typo on figure caption
One of the pictures is subtitled with text that spells "kits" instead of "kids".


 * Baby chinchillas are called "kits," not "kids" so it is correct. There is no typo. --132 04:19, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Darkness
I have once before heard that chinchillas are great at seeing in the dark. I don't know why this is not in the article. Please add this in the main article! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Clammybells (talk • contribs) 14:36, 20 December 2008 (UTC)


 * It does not need to be added to the main article. The descriptor of "crepuscular" and "nocturnal" imply that it can see well in the dark. Unless it is like bats that have a special mechanism specific only to them to help them move around in the dark, there is no reason to include this in the article. Also, when adding messages for discussion on the talk page, all new discussion goes at the BOTTOM of the talk page, not plopped down in the middle (like you did) or at the top. It makes discussion easier and flow better if discussions move from old to new. --132 17:51, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Hypo-allergenic?
"The fur also reduces loose dander, making chinchillas hypo-allergenic.[21]" I searched the source provided, but it mentions nothing about chinchillas being hypo-allergenic. I also happen to know this is not true because I'm allergic to them. I'm not feeling particularly bold today, so I've left it there, but if it doesn't have a real source, it should be removed. 74.176.192.249 (talk) 01:09, 6 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I've found a source that makes this claim and I've updated the wording to reflect the source. However, it is common knowledge among top breeders and most owners that they are, indeed, hypo-allergenic. The chances that you are allergic to chinchillas is extremely slim. In fact, your chances are pretty much zero. Those who claim to be allergic to them are far more than likely allergic to their dust, their hay, their bedding, their food, the materials in the cage, etc., but it is almost impossible to be allergic to them. --132 01:54, 6 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I think the hypo-allergenic sentence should be removed or at least modified with some caveats. While it is true that the relative lack of dander reduces the amount of allergens that they produce that reduction is not to none. The problem is that the sentence as it stands, in the chincillas as pets section, is somewhat misleading given that chincillas do shed hair(albeit slowly), do produce excretions containing allergens, and also require a lot of hay etc (which produces allergens). See http://www.chincare.com/HealthLifestyle/HealthLifestyle.htm#allergies . It seems that many chincillas are returned or given to rescue organisations because owners find that they are allergic to either the chinchilla or its needed foodstuff. Wikipedia is probably one of the first places that people come when googling for info about them, so this article could contribute substantially to misunderstandings and unfortunate treatment of the animals. Some circumspection is needed, therefore, with regard to claims of hypo-allergenicity (if that's a word) Grcaldwell (talk) 13:55, 31 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Hypo-allergenic doesn't mean that something causes no allergies at all; it is just less likely to cause allergies for most people. (eg: some people, such as myself, are still allergic to "hypo-allergenic" jewellry).  I think the hypoallergic claim for chinchillas might therefor be true (I'm not sure, it's just one claim right?  no study has been done?), but I also think a lot of people mistakenly think hypo-allergenic means non-allergic.  At the moment, I lean towards removing the claim- the source appears to be self published on the web and thus not reliable.  If the claim can be found in a book or article that is not self published, then I agree with Grcaldwell that circumspection is needed in the phrasing. --6th Happiness (talk) 17:46, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Sand bathing
I had some chinchilla's when I was around 14 yrs of age and remember that the breeder told me that they needed a relatively large bowl of fine sand to bathe in. The pet shop sold special chinchilla sand for this purpose. I have no idea where to find info but if someone would like to look it up, I believe it to be a good addition ot the 'chinchilla's as pets' part of the article. Cheers. Mkruijff (talk) 22:06, 11 March 2009 (UTC)


 * It already is in the article, in the "chinchillas as pets" section: "They instinctively clean their fur by taking dust baths, in which they roll around in special chinchilla dust made of fine pumice. In the wild their dust is formed from fine ground volcanic rocks. The dust gets into their fur and absorbs oil and dirt. These baths are needed a few times a week. Chinchillas do not bathe in water..." --132 22:10, 11 March 2009 (UTC)


 * By the way, "sand" (and anything advertised as "chinchilla sand") would not be good for a chinchilla bath. It is too grainy and would not be able to absorb the oils well, which is the primary purpose of the dust. --132 22:16, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

New external link?
I think this link was actually listed in the external links section for a while, but it was removed and I'm not sure why. Since I'd rather gain consensus before adding it back, I figured I'd come here first. I'm suggesting we reinstate the following external link: ChinCare.com. The site has vast amounts of information about chinchillas and they cite outside, reliable sources for the majority of their information, especially stuff that might be questionable. At this time, I think it is, without a doubt, the best option for a chinchilla information and care site, which we currently do not have a link for. If there are no objections by Monday, I'll go ahead and add it back. Thanks. --132 16:12, 9 April 2009 (UTC)


 * I figured out when it was removed. Sheesh, I've been watching this page for a while. It was removed on accident. Someone replaced the legitimate link with link spam in this edit. JGXenite then removed the spam link, instead of reverting the edit in this edit, which removed the original link. I'm more inclined to re-add it sooner now that I know it wasn't removed on purpose. Let me know your thoughts. --132 16:20, 9 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Since this has been over a week and nobody has said anything against this, I'm going to go ahead and put the link back in. --132 18:17, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject Rodents
This is a notice to inform interested editors of a new WikiProject being proposed at WikiProject Council/Proposals/Rodents --﻿ΖαππερΝαππερ BabelAlexandria 02:04, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

image
I've tentatively identified File:Rodent on a rock in South America-8.jpg as a wild long-tailed chinchilla. Can someone who knows more confirm? Having a wild shot of a chinchilla species would be a great addition to this article. Sabine's Sunbird  talk  20:05, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I do not know, but User Aranae says that this is a picture of a viscacha (see edit summary), and it does seem to have the colours of a viscacha. Snowman (talk) 20:23, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
 * The tail looks too short on the viscachas. Then again, there seem to be more than one misidentified South American rodent - this viscacha is clearly something else. Perhaps we shuld move this whole conversation to WP:MAMMAL to get more eyes. Sabine's Sunbird   talk  20:29, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
 * It is probably better to get more opinions. Snowman (talk) 21:29, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Moved to Talk:Chinchilla. Sabine's Sunbird  talk  21:37, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I see that you have brought is for discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mammals (typo in your previous edit). Snowman (talk) 21:46, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree that it's coloring is more viscacha-ish, however, it's body just...isn't. It's long and sleek with a very long tail. It just doesn't have that "rabbit" body that the viscacha seem to have. --132 22:07, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

About the "fur" photo on main page
I don't think we need to have a big photo of 2 coats made with approx 350 chinchilla on the main chinchillas page of Wikipedia. I think most people who likes chinchilla will find it horrible to see this. I just don't think this picture should be on there.


 * Wikipedia is not censored. We won't remove a photo that accurately represents the information simply because it might bother some people. --132 05:40, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Einstein76, 21 November 2010
please add an internal wikipedia link under the heading In scientific research for hydrops amnion as follows.

The fetal anomaly of hydrops amnion has not been reported in chinchillas.

I have added this because the comment seems a little out of the blue, and contains a technical term which is not explained. Previously there was not a link to this on wikipedia, but I added it, including and external reference.

thank you.

Einstein76 (talk) 21:17, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

Not done:As a better solution, I removed the whole sentence. I don't understand why we would list one of hundreds of thousands of development disorders that chinchillas do not get. If that was a specifically researched issue, then I suppose we could re-add with a source, if the research was notable. Qwyrxian (talk) 05:46, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Edit requested
Will you change "they comprise the family Chinchillidae" to "they make up the family Chinchilidae"? Thanks! 68.35.40.154 (talk) 04:19, 8 April 2011 (UTC)


 * I fixed your template-this article is only semi-protected, not fully protected. As for your request, can you explain why we should make the change?  Comprise seems slightly more correct to me, although I find it hard to explain why.  Is the word incorrect for some reason?  Qwyrxian (talk) 04:30, 8 April 2011 (UTC)


 * To me, this sounds like an either/or, half a dozen or the other situation. I'd really like some clarification for the change. ICY TIGER'S BLOOD  04:48, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
 * In standard use, the whole comprises the parts, and the parts make up or compose the whole. Not everyone observes this distinction, but many do and there's no reason to intentionally use a form that many find incorrect. 68.35.40.154 (talk) 15:56, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, looking at the dictionary (see the dictionary.com entry), your distinction is technically valid, but in current writing the two meanings are being conflated. However, there's no reason why we can't go with the more technically correct version, so I made the switch.  Qwyrxian (talk) 04:49, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from 71.184.65.28, 14 August 2011
Hello! My name is Talia and I would like to say that chinchillas do not need lots of exercise. I have two, and they stay in their cage all the time. They are not fat or weak, but very healthy. I tried to walk them because of this page, but they chewed though their harness and leash. I tried giving them a wheel, but they were scared of it, didn't go on it, and if they saw me getting out their crate for their check-up, they would hide under it.

Thanks,

Talia

71.184.65.28 (talk) 21:55, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: Anecdotes are generally not great as reliable sources. If possible, please present a reliable, independent source to verify this claim. Cheers! Topher385 (talk) 00:59, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

Archiving

 * I've turned on archiving so that people do not mistakenly reply to comments from multiple years ago. Qwyrxian (talk) 03:17, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

Numerical Data?
Appearance, size, lifespan, herd size and similar (in particular, numerical) information are totally absent from the article. Could somebody please add them? – Kalkühl (talk) 20:39, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

chinchillas
'Chinchillas are crepuscular rodents, slightly larger and more robust than ground squirrels, native to the Andes mountains in South America. They live in colonies at high altitudes (up to 15,000 ft/4,270 m). Historically, they lived in the Andes of Bolivia, Chile, and Peru, but today colonies in the wild remain only in Peru and Chile.[3] Along with their relatives, viscachas, they make up the family Chinchillidae. The animal (whose name literally means "little chincha") is named after the Chincha people of the Andes, who once wore its dense, velvet-like fur.[4] By the end of the 19th century, chinchillas had become quite rare due to hunting for their ultra-soft fur. Most chinchillas currently used by the fur industry for clothing and other accessories are farm-raised.[5] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.190.57.23 (talk) 12:44, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Add Conservation Status
The main chinchilla article has no indication of its conservation status in the Taxobox, such as exists with some other animals. However, if you follow the link specified in the second footnote, it refers to the IUCN Red List v3.1 which lists the chinchilla as critically endangered. Since the page is locked, I am unable to fix this. Can someone with appropriate privs please add in the status? Jcubed la (talk) 21:34, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Cheers Jcubed - excellent catch. I've corrected the status per IUCN http://www.iucnredlist.org/details/4651/0 Particularly important status information given the current situation of this species. Jaydubya93 (talk) 03:50, 18 January 2014 (UTC)