Talk:Chinese Lunar Exploration Program

Untitled
That article is a mess. It needs serious clean-up. Themanwithoutapast 11:52, 5 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Still true to this day, 17 years later. Footy2000♡; 09:06, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

Footprints on icon
On the logo for the program, those grey spots. Do they look like footprints to anyone? Roswell Crash Survivor 03:26, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
 * They certainly do. That was my first thought.  :)  --EarthPerson 00:49, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Chinese Lunar Exploration Program
The name of the full program is Chinese Lunar Exploration Program and not Chang'e. Chang'e is just part of the full program, specifically the Chang'e 1 vessel. So all things Chang'e 1 related are now on a specific page, and general info is here. Ricnun 01:03, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Industrial projects
There's some mention of iron and helium-3 - the article should explain whether the planned Moon landers and base will actually involve industrial exploitation or whether this is just a long-range desire of some of the people involved. 70.15.116.59 04:52, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Skeptics
Thre are American skeptics that will tell you America has never been to the moon. Their thought is that is was all made up in a Hollywood basement. I would love to hear if this irreverent phobia is also taking place now, in China. The contrasts might make the basis for some work in psychology or news article. If nothing else, show how similar we are. comment added by Imlookingnow 20:42, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Vanilla malt: Is this exploration program really going to make vanilla malt on the moon?This sounds like a joke to meWai Hong 18:35, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

China says lunar image authentic
Anyone know the story on this? "China's space program has defended a photo of the moon's surface taken by its lunar probe as authentic, dismissing critics who suggested it had been copied from a similar image captured by a U.S. orbiter." -- http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071203/ap_on_re_as/china_lunar_skeptics_2 Please followup at Talk:Chang'e 1 Ewlyahoocom (talk) 19:24, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

well, NASA pointed out alignment errors in the picture visible on the overlapping edges of the photo that was merge into a complete map. those overlapping edges (which are far worst on google earth which take picture from many source) are different from NASA's so it was likely taken from a seperate source. actually it is a silly arguement, how different can you expect the lifeless moon to look? O_o it is unfortunate that any difference are actually technical errors and largely nothing new was observe... it is still very much the same moon, no one been playing golf there for a long long time. :P Akinkhoo (talk) 06:49, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

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Apparent bias
Does anyone else think the line: "Unlike the obviously unrealistic American lunar base concepts,..." seems somewhat, you know, not neutral. At all. Especially sans evidence to support these supposed unrealistic aspects, beyond a CNSA picture with no background or explanation. I'm sure a number of people would probably take great offense to an unsupported accusation like that as well. At the very least, it would probably be better to change it to something decidedly less offensive, even if the basic idea remains. Thesillyshmo (talk) 06:53, 15 September 2008 (UTC) Long March 7 (CZ-7)????? where come this informantion about this rocket? i look on internet and i not found nothing about this "lunar rocket"


 * "less offensive": treating people like monkeys by daring to post such fallacies as the NASA's alleged SURFACE Lunar base on the official Chinese CNSA website IS most offensive to serious readers (that is educated with degree in Physics).


 * There are info about CZ-7, available on the web; it only shows your own limits. 218.102.39.153 (talk)17:23, 25 September 2008 (PRCT)

As an aerospace systems engineer working as a "rocket scientist," I must concur with whoever marked the section "New Moon rocket" as dubious. The reported 500-ton launch capability planned for this new Long March vehicle (CZ-7 maybe) is absurd, IMHO. Assuming this is the launch capability to LEO, it is an order of magnitude greater than any current operational vehicle, more than 4 times the payload of the Saturn V, and 2-3 times the planned payload for Ares V or any other Super Heavy Lift vehicle concept I've seen (see Comparison of heavy lift launch systems and Astronautix.com). Also, the links to the supporting references on this section are dead, although I haven't checked the way-back machine. I propose that this sentence-section be deleted unless somebody can find what 2006 conference Mr. Zhang attended where he made his claim, or a paper written by him on the topic. I also recommend ignoring 218.102.39.153 as he/she appears to be a Wiki-vandal based in Hong Kong, unless he can provide a link to the info on about the CZ-7 he found "available on the web." 129.123.8.30 (talk) 01:49, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Why I deleted the "Manned Mission" section
I was the one who deleted the Manned Mission section. Here's why.

The only evidence for Chinese intent is a few public statements by space scientists and public officials that have never been supported by any official statements of the Chinese Space Program. The interpretation of the Chinese insignia is minor evidence and it's a sign of the weakness of this section that this was placed first in the section. Further, there's no indication that China has a CZ-7 in design. And a lunar rover need not be manned, I've seen a rover associated with discussion of the sample return mission. And the last paragraph (rambling about the US space program, radiation, and some minor quote (about digging in to reduce radiation exposure)) adds nothing to this section.

For whatever reasons, China has repeatedly denied that it has plans for manned lunar missions. So any such discussion of a lunar program is highly speculative. I won't have problems with a section that treats this situation accurately, but what I deleted, was deeply flawed and didn't accurately reflect what is currently known. -- KarlHallowell (talk) 20:55, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Organization chart
zh.wikipedia has this chart. I hope someone can translate this chart into English. It would help to understand some technical terms.114.37.143.183 (talk) 02:36, 18 December 2013 (UTC) 二期工程
 * 探月工程领导小组组长兼总指挥：陈求发
 * 探月工程领导小组高级顾问：栾恩杰、孙家栋、欧阳自远
 * 探月工程领导小组顾问：龙乐豪、贺祖明、沈荣骏
 * 探月工程专职副总指挥：胡浩
 * 探月工程副总指挥：牛红光、阴和俊、马兴瑞、王志刚、袁家军
 * 探月工程总设计师：吴伟仁
 * 探月工程副总设计师：贺祖明、于登云、王忠贵、孙辉先、张荣桥
 * 月球应用科学首席科学家：严俊
 * 探月与航天工程中心主任：张嘉浩
 * 卫星系统总指挥：张廷新／总设计师：黄江川
 * 运载火箭系统总指挥：岑拯／总设计师：姜杰
 * 发射场系统总指挥：李尚福／总设计师：周凤广
 * 测控系统总指挥：董德义／总设计师：钱卫平
 * 地面应用系统总指挥：刘晓群／总设计师：李春来

Leader of the lunar exploration project leader and chief commander: Chen Qifa Senior Consultant of the Leading Group of Lunar Exploration Project: Yan Enjie, Sun Jiadong, Ouyang Ziyuan Consultant of the Leading Group of the Lunar Exploration Project: Long Lehao, He Zuming, Shen Rongjun Full-time deputy commander of the lunar exploration project: Hu Hao Deputy Chief Commander of Lunar Exploration Project: Niu Hongguang, Yin Hejun, Ma Xingrui, Wang Zhigang, Yuan Jiajun Chief designer of the lunar exploration project: Wu Weiren Deputy Chief Designer of Lunar Exploration Project: He Zuming, Yu Dengyun, Wang Zhonggui, Sun Huixian, Zhang Rongqiao Chief Scientist of Lunar Applied Science: Yan Jun Director of the Lunar Exploration and Space Engineering Center: Zhang Jiahao Chief Commander of Satellite System: Zhang Tingxin / Chief Designer: Huang Jiangchuan Chief Commander of Launch Vehicle System: Qi Zheng / Chief Designer: Jiang Jie Launch Site System Chief Commander: Li Shangfu / Chief Designer: Zhou Fengguang Director of Measurement and Control System: Dong Deyi / Chief Designer: Qian Weiping Chief Commander of Ground Application System: Liu Xiaoqun / Chief Designer: Li Chunlai 97.46.73.86 (talk) 19:25, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

Update
China official states that Chang'e 4 will be delayed: "The programme’s next step would be to send a Long March-3B rocket to the moon and attempt to return to earth safely without a landing, he said." http://www.scmp.com/news/china-insider/article/1511212/chinas-next-moon-mission-doubt-says-senior-space-programme

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