Talk:Chinois

Pronunciation
Pronunciation?? Shin Wa? Shin oys?
 * "Shin Wah" is the way I have heard it in American kitchens. Jake b 04:02, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Isn't the item in the image the "China Cap" mentioned in the article with perforated metal, as opposed to the wire mesh of a chinoise?


 * I don't think it's particularly useful or informative to keep this and colander separated. I believe they should be merged in a joint article, for example sieve (cooking). Keeping them apart seems to be useful only to those who are already familiar with the concept. There are also tools like sieve cloths, which would result in three separate articles about the same basic concept.
 * Peter Isotalo 10:54, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Spelling
Is chinoise common in non-American English? Chinois is the standard spelling in American English in my experience. Amazon.com suggests chinois as a spelling correction for chinoise. Google has 71M results for chinois, 30M for chinoise. --Jheiss (talk) 14:05, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

The correct spelling is Chinois, not Chinoise [and I am going to change it]. I'm French, and I've never heard anyone call it anything other than a Chinois. If you look for the French language version of this article it referred to as a Chinois. Enough said.... Thuriaux (talk) 21:04, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

Chinoise
1) I have not previously seen a distinction between a chinoise and a china cap, but concur that, given this distinction, that the included photograph is indeed a china cap, and not a chinoise.

2) An important difference between a colander and a chinoise is that the latter is often used with a pestle (for example, to press boiled solids in order to extract as much liquid as possible) where the former drains passively. I would not consider them necessarily the same tool. John Younger 01:38, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

As somebody who's taught at cooking schools, I can say a) that, yes, the picture is of a china cap, not a chinoise, and b) that the correct pronunciation (as one would assume from the french spelling)is "shin was." And this should really not be combined with colander, because the two are different. It might be said that a chinoise is a type of colander, but they are not the same. Sort of like merging "Spoon" and "Silverware" for instance. A china cap might also be explained here, because they are quite similar, or another page for that item might be created. And it should be mentioned that chinoises usually have three layers of mesh, while a china cap has only one sieving layer, and it is not mesh but, as the picture shows, simply a perforated metal sheet. So that's my two cents. 70.108.199.130 16:05, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

I changed the pic. Sashafklein 16:26, 10 March 2007 (UTC)