Talk:Chios massacre

people of Mastichochoria and the mastic trees
by the Genocide in the Greek island of Chios were able residents Mastichochoria in South - West Island rescued thanks to the Mastic tree crops which produced the resin Mastic was worth the weight of gold that was used by the sultan and the harem wives also served as a valuable material for export of the Empire note octet. man who was stolen the Mastic was executed by the order of the sultan. פארוק (talk) 07:33, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

remarks
1. there is no mentioning of turkish casualties when armed greeks come to the island and "attacked" turks. 2. no mention if the turks, who were attacked initially, were unarmed and civilians. 3. "civilians" on an island belonging to an ethnic group, under the jurisdiction of an empire, does not necessarily constitute an part of the empire itself. no mention of their roles on the island but they may have been civilians. off the record: all unnecessary killing is awful.85.102.185.199 (talk) 14:21, 31 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Started tagging article before I read these notes. The article is less than precise. This is the trouble with pov editing by one side or the other. You don't get a balanced picture.


 * The island was part of the Ottoman Empire whether the inhabitants liked it or not. In those days, you didn't get to vote. Sometimes, not even nowdays.


 * The Turks who were initially attacked were most likely civilians, or at least "non-combatants." (maybe police or bureaucrats, but this sort of thing gets out of hand fairly quickly, regardless of the aims of the perps when they first started).


 * Like today, it was difficult to tall the difference between Greek terrorists and "innocent" Greek civilians. Back then, they didn't much care. No "Geneva convention." Or they could have rounded up everybody, brought them to court, then executed them! It was their court, after all! A little hard measuring a different time. We are here today having learned the lessons that were taught yesterday. If they hadn't learned the hard way, we would. Better them than me.


 * The main thing here is to get it right. Most of the info we have is from Greek partisans. We don't need Turkish partisans to offset it. We just need clearer facts, most likely from neutral European historians. Student7 (talk) 21:30, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
 * I let the new counts stand since they do account for "enslaved" which hadn't been done before. No reason they are more reliable, however. They appear less reliable. I also re-added the old .edu citation with a lower number. More reliable even if they don't account for enslaved. Student7 (talk) 22:56, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Quality of sources
It is sad that such an important event in the history of Greece is documented here on Wikipedia so poorly. Web sites like chioshistory.gr, christopherlong.co.uk (a personal web site), qgazette.com (a local newspaper in Queens) are not reliable sources. The Open University article is about the Delacroix painting, and not a useful source for the history of the event. The Living Age article citation is incomplete (no volume/year). --Macrakis (talk) 02:39, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

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blogs are not reliable-especially when unreferenced!
www.chioshistory.gr - is not a reliable source - another editor has already tagged this - something this significant will be in standard, scholarly references - if the statement is NOT backed up by reliable historians, then it should go - any subject matter experts here with valid sources? otherwise, this must go - and very soon (a couple of days) 50.111.8.107 (talk) 00:45, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

Have a look here --> https://digitalcommons.unf.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1021&context=ahis_facpub - this paper includes references; University of N. Florida  50.111.8.107 (talk) 00:58, 12 April 2020 (UTC)