Talk:Chippawa, Ontario

The section "Area history" appears to be a cut & paste from http://www.iaw.com/~falls/chippawa.html (copyright status uncertain). --Big_iron 21:04, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Chippawa "Creek" or "Crick"
Well I live near the area and its called Chippawa Creek —Preceding unsigned comment added by Friesenjmw (talk • contribs) 06:29, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

A disagreement exists as to the correct local name for the river flowing through Chippawa - Chippawa "Creek", or "Crick"
 * Both - AL OLEKSUIK, Yellow perch like a canary in a coal mine, Niagara Falls Review, 2006.
 * The word crick is a less standard usage in the English language though. I could only find one source of the use of crick via google, (where as creek brings several sources.) If one more source could be found I think we should just include into the article both uses. :
 * "(Also known as Chippawa Creek or Chippawa Crick, and formerly as the Chippawa River.)"
 * R00m c (talk) 04:19, 13 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I placed the Request Comment tag on this page to aid in reaching a consensus on whether we would use "Crick" or "Creek" (or both) to describe the common name in the Village of Chippawa for the Welland River. This question has further repercussions in regard to an article update on the Welland River which I am currently developing.   The ultimator (talk) has changed this from "Creek" to "Crick" on several occasions and these changes have been reverted or overwritten by multiple users. My opinion is as follows;
 * While I don't challenge the assertion that some people in Chippawa and the immediate area use the work "Crick" for this waterway, it appears that everyone who has taken the time to have any work published which mentions this issue has used the word "Creek". The newspaper article linked by R00m c above simply mentions that some children used the term "The Crick", but uses the formal name - "Welland River" as the primary reference to the waterway.  I view this as a representation of a vernacular phraseology included by the author to illustrate the naïvety of his own childhood. Merriam Webster's dictionary only defines "Crick" as (words to the effect of) a pain in the neck - this issue is rapidly becoming a crick.  Wictionary does list this as an alternate spelling of "Creek", but only as a US Regional dialect.
 * "Creek" is the spelling used by Bond and Jackson as referenced in the article, by the Niagara Falls Public Library, by The Village of Chippawa, a History which was previously copied into this article in violation of copyright, and in a multitude of other published sources. If The ultimator (or anyone else) can provide a published secondary or primary source which refers to this as "Chippawa Crick" in a manner other than a verbatim representation of vernacular speech, I will drop my objection and endorse the alternate term "Crick" (alongside "Creek"). Otherwise, I feel that "Crick" should not be part of the article.
 * I will place an invitation on The ultimator 's talk page to offer an opinion on this subject. Radtek67 (talk) 00:00, 14 June 2008 (UTC)


 * This seems cut and dried. Creek has multiple 3rd party RSs, and crick doesn't - not even enough to mention it as variant in any article except the one about the river specifically. Verifiability is policy, simple as thatYobmod (talk) 18:40, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

James Cameron
I lived next door to Jim and his family and wanted to make note that the main article says his parents still live in the house where he was raised in Chippawa. Jim and his family moved to California whe Jim was about 15


 * The IMDB biography confirms that James Cameron relocated to the USA in 1971, presumably with his family, and the statement about his parents still living in Chippawa was unsourced anyway, so it has been removed. Radtek67 (talk) 16:57, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

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