Talk:Chivalry of a Failed Knight/Archive 1

Changed names...
The page name should be changed to "Rakudai Kishi no Eiyuutan".--Dbzsotrum9 (talk) 06:34, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

Eiyuutan
"Rakudai Kishi no Eiyuutan" does appear to be in use, such as in the wikia project.

Kanji appears to have 3 aspects.


 * 落第騎士の is first "Rakudai kishi no"
 * 英雄譚 is second "Eiyūtan"
 * キャバルリィ is overtop second "Kyabaruryi", no meaning, pure pronunciation reflecting an English word

It appears that the second bullet is probably more prominent than the third. We can see this in some other titles like Vampire Princess Miyu:


 * 吸血姫 is first, "Kyūketsu hime"
 * ヴァンパイア is overtop first, "Vu~anpaia"
 * 美夕 is following "Miyu"

First/second compete here. If you opt for 1+3 it is "Kyuketsu Hime (Vampire Princess) Miyu" whereas 2+3 is "Vampire Miyu" (no princess). Since we go with 'princess' in VPM it shows a preference to go with the katakana on the bottom rather than the kanji written on top.

Both could be reflected via rose though so I'll do that. Ranze (talk) 05:15, 2 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately, the official Japanese materials do not use the "Eiyuutan" romanization and no reliable source can confirm the "Eiyuutan" usage. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 18:00, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

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Characters
I am placing the minor (I'm not 100% sure on all of them) characters here for now, feel free to either split them off into a new article or develop them in draft space.

Hagun Academy

 * Nagi Arisuin (有栖院 凪)
 * Nagi Arisuin, nicknamed Alice, is Shizuku's roommate who identifies herself as a woman born in a man's body. Nagi's Device is Darkness Hermit, and Noble Art is Shadow Bind. Although Nagi is revealed to be a member of Akatsuki, Nagi turns from the organization.
 * Nagi Arisuin, nicknamed Alice, is Shizuku's roommate who identifies herself as a woman born in a man's body. Nagi's Device is Darkness Hermit, and Noble Art is Shadow Bind. Although Nagi is revealed to be a member of Akatsuki, Nagi turns from the organization.


 * Ayase Ayatsuji (綾辻 絢瀬)
 * A third-year student of Hagun Academy and the daughter of a famous swordsman named Kaito Ayatsuji. Ayase approaches Ikki and asks for his guidance to improve her swordsmanship. Two years prior to the current story, her father fought against Kuraudo, a Blazer from Tonrou Academy, with their dojo on the line and ended up in a coma with the dojo being taken over by Kuraudo. After this event, Ayase constantly challenged Kuraudo, but to no avail. She hopes to enter the Seven Star Sword Art Festival to have a chance to get the dojo back.
 * A third-year student of Hagun Academy and the daughter of a famous swordsman named Kaito Ayatsuji. Ayase approaches Ikki and asks for his guidance to improve her swordsmanship. Two years prior to the current story, her father fought against Kuraudo, a Blazer from Tonrou Academy, with their dojo on the line and ended up in a coma with the dojo being taken over by Kuraudo. After this event, Ayase constantly challenged Kuraudo, but to no avail. She hopes to enter the Seven Star Sword Art Festival to have a chance to get the dojo back.


 * Kagami Kusakabe (日下部 加々美)
 * An aspiring journalist and founder of the Newspaper Club. Despite claiming not to be a gossip writer, she does hear of many happenings around the school and often suggests scandalous topics for her articles. She is nicknamed "Kagamin" by Alice.
 * An aspiring journalist and founder of the Newspaper Club. Despite claiming not to be a gossip writer, she does hear of many happenings around the school and often suggests scandalous topics for her articles. She is nicknamed "Kagamin" by Alice.


 * Shizuya Kirihara (桐原 静矢)
 * An extremely arrogant and egotistic C-Rank Blazer at Hagun Academy nicknamed "Hunter", who is Ikki's rival. The previous year, he attacked Ikki, who couldn't fight back without being expelled (Kirihara was let off with a mere warning), and spread the rumor that Ikki was a coward. He fought against Ikki in a Selection match and lost.
 * An extremely arrogant and egotistic C-Rank Blazer at Hagun Academy nicknamed "Hunter", who is Ikki's rival. The previous year, he attacked Ikki, who couldn't fight back without being expelled (Kirihara was let off with a mere warning), and spread the rumor that Ikki was a coward. He fought against Ikki in a Selection match and lost.


 * Kanata Totokubara (貴徳原 カナタ)
 * The second-ranking Apprentice Knight of Hagun Academy. She is always seen in a "Southern Belle"-type outfit complete with parasol. Like Tōka, Kanata has significant combat experience. She is the treasurer of the Student Council.
 * The second-ranking Apprentice Knight of Hagun Academy. She is always seen in a "Southern Belle"-type outfit complete with parasol. Like Tōka, Kanata has significant combat experience. She is the treasurer of the Student Council.


 * Renren Tomaru (兎丸 恋々)
 * The third-ranking Apprentice Knight of Hagun Academy. Nicknamed Runner's High, her Noble Art, Black Bird (ブラックバード), accumulates speed and can even break the speed of sound at maximum speed. She lost to Ikki in a Selection match.
 * The third-ranking Apprentice Knight of Hagun Academy. Nicknamed Runner's High, her Noble Art, Black Bird (ブラックバード), accumulates speed and can even break the speed of sound at maximum speed. She lost to Ikki in a Selection match.


 * Ikazuchi Saijō (砕城 雷)
 * The secretary of the Student Council, he is nicknamed the "Destroyer". His noble art is accumulation of slaying momentum with the more he swings his sword, the heavier it gets. He lost to Stella in a Selection match.
 * The secretary of the Student Council, he is nicknamed the "Destroyer". His noble art is accumulation of slaying momentum with the more he swings his sword, the heavier it gets. He lost to Stella in a Selection match.


 * Utakata Misogi (御祓 泡沫)
 * The vice president of the Hagun Academy Student Council. He is Tōka and Kanata's childhood friend.
 * The vice president of the Hagun Academy Student Council. He is Tōka and Kanata's childhood friend.


 * Tōka Tōdō (東堂 刀華)
 * The student council president of Hagun Academy. A B-Rank Blazer who is said to be the strongest in the school and specializes in Battōjutsu. Her Noble Art, Raikiri (雷切), is a technique that allows Tōka to draw her sword out at the speed of lightning. Despite being a student and Apprentice Knight, Tōka has real combat experience, having been called to help destroy bases belonging to Rebellion. Tōka fought and defeated Shizuku in a Selection match, but later ends up losing to Ikki.
 * The student council president of Hagun Academy. A B-Rank Blazer who is said to be the strongest in the school and specializes in Battōjutsu. Her Noble Art, Raikiri (雷切), is a technique that allows Tōka to draw her sword out at the speed of lightning. Despite being a student and Apprentice Knight, Tōka has real combat experience, having been called to help destroy bases belonging to Rebellion. Tōka fought and defeated Shizuku in a Selection match, but later ends up losing to Ikki.


 * Nene Saikyō (西京 寧音)
 * Kurono's best friend, who is currently serving as a part-time teacher in Hagun Academy. She is known as "Yakshahime" and possesses skills that rivals those of Kurono. Nene is an accomplished athlete, having participated in sports tournaments like "King of Knights" (KOK), a hand-to-hand contest between Blazers, and even the Olympics.
 * Kurono's best friend, who is currently serving as a part-time teacher in Hagun Academy. She is known as "Yakshahime" and possesses skills that rivals those of Kurono. Nene is an accomplished athlete, having participated in sports tournaments like "King of Knights" (KOK), a hand-to-hand contest between Blazers, and even the Olympics.


 * Yuri Oreki (折木 有里)
 * Ikki and Stella's homeroom teacher who insists that her students call her "Yuri-chan". She suffers from an unknown illness that causes her to vomit a liter of blood a day. Oreki is well-disposed towards Ikki and was part of the reason that Ikki was able to enter Hagun Academy.
 * Ikki and Stella's homeroom teacher who insists that her students call her "Yuri-chan". She suffers from an unknown illness that causes her to vomit a liter of blood a day. Oreki is well-disposed towards Ikki and was part of the reason that Ikki was able to enter Hagun Academy.


 * Kurono Shinguuji (新宮寺 黒乃)
 * Hagun Academy's new director. The former third-ranking Mage Knight of the world, she is nicknamed "World Clock". Upon arriving at the Hagun Academy, Kurono immediately fired all of the staff involved in the scheme to hold Ikki back and created the Selection Battle to give every student a chance to enter the Seven Star Sword Art Festival.
 * Hagun Academy's new director. The former third-ranking Mage Knight of the world, she is nicknamed "World Clock". Upon arriving at the Hagun Academy, Kurono immediately fired all of the staff involved in the scheme to hold Ikki back and created the Selection Battle to give every student a chance to enter the Seven Star Sword Art Festival.

Kurogane Family

 * Ryōma Kurogane (黒鉄 龍馬)
 * Ikki and Shizuku's great-grandfather and a renowned Blazer.
 * Ikki and Shizuku's great-grandfather and a renowned Blazer.


 * Itsuki Kurogane (黒鉄 巌)
 * The current head of the Kurogane Family and father of Ōma, Ikki, and Shizuku. He betrayed Ikki as a child, ordering his son to not show himself to the world. When Ikki left the house, Itsuki used his connections to have Ikki fail in his academics and repeat a year. It is later revealed that he has no personal feelings whatsoever towards Ikki, but merely sees him as a danger to the Kurogane organization hierarchy because of Ikki's refusal to accept what his father considered to be his uselessness and futile aspirations.
 * The current head of the Kurogane Family and father of Ōma, Ikki, and Shizuku. He betrayed Ikki as a child, ordering his son to not show himself to the world. When Ikki left the house, Itsuki used his connections to have Ikki fail in his academics and repeat a year. It is later revealed that he has no personal feelings whatsoever towards Ikki, but merely sees him as a danger to the Kurogane organization hierarchy because of Ikki's refusal to accept what his father considered to be his uselessness and futile aspirations.


 * Akaza Mamoru
 * The current head of the Kurogane Clan's branch family and Ethics Committee Chief for the Japanese branch of the League of Mage-Knights. He's short and fat with an incredibly slimy personality. With the approval of Ikki's father, he concocts and implements the plan to create a scandal about Ikki and Stella and to have Ikki imprisoned in the special jail built by the Kurogane Family and put through the mockery of a sham trial in an effort to have Ikki expelled.


 * Ōma Kurogane (黒鉄 王馬)
 * The eldest of the Kurogane siblings. Ōma left the Kurogane house five years before the current story and was considered missing. He later reappears as a member of Akatsuki and challenges Stella to a duel, which he wins.

Blazer

 * Edelweiss (エーデルワイス)
 * The top-ranking Blazer in the world. Edelweiss is a criminal whose capture has been given up on due to her immense strength.


 * Kuraudo Kurashiki (倉敷 蔵人)
 * The ace of Tonrō Academy. A C-Rank Blazer nicknamed the Sword Eater due to having defeated many swordsmen. He was in the top 8 at the previous years Seven Star Battle Festival. When Ikki defeats him, he returns the dojo ownership to Ayase's family.
 * The ace of Tonrō Academy. A C-Rank Blazer nicknamed the Sword Eater due to having defeated many swordsmen. He was in the top 8 at the previous years Seven Star Battle Festival. When Ikki defeats him, he returns the dojo ownership to Ayase's family.


 * Yūdai Moroboshi (諸星 雄大)
 * The previous winner of the Seven Star Sword Art Festival. He fights against Ikki in the first round of the current Seven Star Sword Art Festival and loses.

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Discussion

 * Editors should try to combine the character sections as the minor characters here are excessive. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 17:21, 9 February 2017 (UTC)


 * The character list should be limited to the 9 characters from the visual novel website, done dictionary definition style, and could be expanded to the 11-15 as listed in the anime website. The rest are minor characters and do not need to be listed. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 17:25, 10 February 2017 (UTC)


 * We might create a possible character list if we can get enough material for reception and production history. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 06:52, 16 February 2017 (UTC)


 * I've added back some of the characters as listed on the light novel main characters list as well as the anime main characters list (characters, cast/staff) AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 17:59, 7 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Is it possible to create a separate "List of characters"-article? I could probably do it, though I wouldn't mind if someone else did it, as I'm not especially familiar with how to do everything. What do you say? Alterdream (talk) 16:31, 8 August 2017 (UTC)


 * At around 15 characters, it's okay to keep it in the main article. But it could use some more referencing to the light novels. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 15:02, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

Things to do

 * 1) Look into creation/development references.
 * 2) Try to expand the print/anime sections.
 * 3) Add more reviews from other independent sources.
 * 4) Fix up the characters (see above).
 * 5) Fix up article issues (clarify/not in reference/needs citation tags).

- Knowledgekid87 (talk) 15:12, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

Episode Reviews
The ANN review page has links to the individual episode reviews by Rebecca Silverman which we can use as a source. Any thoughts about this? Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 06:31, 16 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Try to look for other review sites other than ANN as we have six reviewers commenting from there. I also do not see the sales figures as that notable, they might fall under excessive statistics. If these numbers were in the top 10 or on the NYT best sellers list then yeah it would be worth mentioning. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 14:37, 16 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Looking for other reviews are exactly what I've been doing (such as Kotaku). One of my key points in the discussions that I thought the Japanese websites for sales and reviews would work for the reception statistics since it is a Japanese light novel after all. As an example, the reception section for The Irregular at Magic High School adds the statistics in addition to the reviews. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 16:47, 16 February 2017 (UTC)