Talk:Choi Lei Fut

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Please see the note posted on the "External links" sections of other martial arts pages: "Wikipedia isn't a link farm. A link should be here if it provides significant new info, not simply to promote business. Please don't add links to individual schools."

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The External Links and biographies of various masters swelled the size of this article to more than double the recommended 32kb.

Accordingly, the external links section has been cleared, as has been done in other martial arts articles where the external links section got out of hand due to abuse as business advertising and the biographies of individual masters have been broken out into individual articles.

JFD 19:57, 30 May 2006 (UTC)


 * I think the websites of the headquarters of each branch, as well as sites that provide original info should be put back - this would make the links section have a managable 5-7 items. Frikle 06:15, 31 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Done. JFD 16:01, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

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merge Do Pi Kung Fu
Greetings, Do Pi Kung Fu was propsed for deletion on grounds of notability. As it seems to be an off-shoot or at least related to Choy Lee Fut, I am wondering if it could be incorporated into this article rather than deleted altogether... --Mista-X 03:33, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I've placed an alternate suggestion on the WP:MA talk page -- Medains 11:10, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Meaning
What does "Choi Lei Fat" mean?


 * The name was created by Chan Heung to honor the masters who trained him. Choi from Choi Fook, Lei from Lei Yau San and Fut (Meaning Buddha) in honor of the Shaolin teachings of his uncle Chan Yuen Woo. He chose Fut instead of Chan (supposedly) so that the name of the style would not appear to be named after himself. --Radiofreejohn (talk) 19:17, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Needs rework
History of Choy Li Fut...

The authoritative history of Choy Li Fut should come from someone who has officially been entrusted with the Chan Heung scripts. I believe this to be Grandmaster Doc Fai Wong in San Francisco. There has been too many 'editors' of this page with partial or inaccurate histories. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Huo Xin (talk • contribs) 18:03, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Jeong Yim section sounds similar to Huo Yuanjia
The Jeong Yim story sounds very similar to Huo Yuanjia's story. It needs to be validated. Huo Xin (talk) 02:57, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Original research
section is unverifiable, no documentation, information provided is extracted from a known fictional story named, "Fut San Hung Sing Kwoon" written by Nim Fut San Yen; information contradicts known documentation of the life of Chan Heung as written in the Chan Family Manuscripts which documents the studies of the founder of Cailifo, Chan Heung. The documentation shows that Chan Din-Foon was the student of Chan Heung who started the Hung Sing kwoon in Fut San sometime around 1847 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Clftruthseeking (talk • contribs) 2009-06-16 22:17:28
 * Comment erroneously made, using the wrong tag, in the article. Uncle G (talk) 22:50, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Current Masters of Choi Lei Fut
I believe that there are more Choi Lei Fut masters all around the world, as well as from different branches. Don't you think this section is a bit biased? Should the Buk Sing masters be listed under the Buk Sing Branch? Huo Xin (talk) 19:29, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Jeong Yim section needs verification
There doesn't seem to be much factual evidence to support this section. I am trying to find some concrete evidence, but most of the information seems to be from original research and not published research. Huo Xin (talk) 17:54, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

restart of page
I think the maintainers of the page has not done a good job of improving this entry. I suggest a quick deletion and redoing of this page. Huo Xin (talk) 18:52, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

will delete this page on July 14.
Due to the poor historic content of this page, I will delete and redirect contents on Friday July 14th 2009. If there is any objection, please place hang on template under removal tag AND put your reasons here. If you do not put your reason here, I will delete the page. Huo Xin (talk) 03:28, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Friday is the 17th of July.Clftruthseeking (talk) 03:51, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks - yes I meant deletion on July 17th
Thank you for the date correction. I meant I will delete this page on Friday, July 17th 2009. Huo Xin (talk) 17:06, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Redirect and contents merged
As I announced earlier, I redirected this page to a more established and properly created page. Huo Xin (talk) 17:52, 17 July 2009 (UTC)