Talk:Choice/Archives/2013

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A lot of this is more suitable to wiktionary than to an encyclopedia?--78.86.18.55 (talk) 12:01, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

weird sentence structure
"Choice-advocates often pair the virtues of choice with the responsibilities of responsibility." -uhh, wtf?

"Note that the consequences of a personal choice may impact on other people, and any associated responsibilities may extend into a wider society." -again...?

these sentences are consecutive. Ok, so first of all, what is the editor reffering to by "choice-advocates?" what *are* choice advocates? "virtues of choice with 'responsibilities...'" ok that makes sense (if it's just "responsibilities"). "note that the consequences (get rid of note that - just say "the consequences...") of a personal choice may impact other people, and *that* any associated *consequences* (of a personal choice / choices) might extend into "other peoples' lives."

what are you talking about with "choice advocates?" ???

so if i were to edit this it would be (something like),

"Choices are often paired with responsibilities because the consequences of a personal choice may impact other people and a wider range of society than just the person who makes the choice."

BriEnBest (talk) 11:46, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

This is a good example of a word whose correct definition is poorly known in American culture. Choice is not the same as decision but is often used incorrectly as a synonym. Please evaluate or consider that a choice is generally focused on your personal taste, such as chocolate vs vanilla ice cream. It's often a reflexive response. A decision on the other hand generally requires analysis. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.184.170.4 (talk) 14:50, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

"Everyone knows that an SAT score below 800 is very bad while an SAT score above 1500 is exceptionally good." Since when is "everyone knows" credible evidence? A test taken by a specific population in the United States is not universal. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.185.161.81 (talk) 04:24, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

NZ Slang
I think choice is used similarly elsewhere in the English speaking world. I think it comes from a way to describe meat. you know, like a choice piece of meat. 67.176.160.47 (talk) 16:11, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

I feel that if philosophical arguments are ending up in an encyclopedia then a meta-empathetic example should also be given
Water flowing from a tap chooses to overflow a 1 liter container when it has reached 1 kg in weight.

It chooses to overflow a 2 liter container when it has reached 2 kg in weight.

under different circumstances the flowing water would choose a different weight as the best choice of weight at which to overflow the container.

for instance if the temperature was higher the weight would be lower.

This could be considered somewhat equivalent to the water having a maximizer or satisfier personality. hotter water has more of a satisfier personality and colder water more of a maximizer personality. since weight is the measure against which the choice has been made. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.86.206.21 (talk) 20:09, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

The Piece That is Missing: Learning from Experience to Make Better Choices
Choice is something that we do everyday, but the theoretical model here tends to leave out the real-world experiences that form the basis for our daily choices. We know someone who made the same choice; it turned out badly for them, so we don't go that route. We've made the same choice before; it turned out badly, so we think "I'm not going there again."

All of these rely on having the independence to make an individual choice. If the choices are made by committee or legislation, for example, to prevent you from making a "bad decision" that could be harmful to yourself, it is unlikely you will experience the teaching of the bad side effects of the bad decision, and the experiential learning will not take place. Obviously, I am not talking about the extreme example of murdering someone, which is an expression of mental illness.

Experience is a huge element of how we make choices, and more importantly, how we improve the quality of our choice-making. If the buck stops at our own doorstep, and we have to live through whatever consequences ensue, we will learn more than if we were prevented from making a choice on our own. As the saying goes "ain't but one way a kid ever learned not to put his/her hand on the stove." You can preach and make rules, but the learning, and the improved choice-making (in cases where mental illness is not a factor) will only come from the freedom to choose.

All4thinking (talk) 15:50, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

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The choice between goodness and wickedness is not simple and should not be referred to as a "simple example".--QmunkE 10:50, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

The examples of complex choices sound a little like fuck cows too US-centric. cyclosarin 03:42, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

I think something about the St.Petersburg Paradox should be added Canking 02:16, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

The examples of choice shy away from using the word 'choice' in specific context. Suggested wording: Jplandolt (talk) 19:45, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Choosing between getting up in the morning or going back to sleep
 * Choosing a given route for a journey

Intro
I think the intro describes judgement rather than choice. Surely a choice is the selection of an optional act, irrespective of the thought process which might or might not be applied. Although it is true that a rational conscious process might precede the choice, is it necessarily so? Macdonald-ross (talk) 15:14, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

= Choice vs ratio ====== I think you're correct, choices can be made by far less evolved creatures than man. Even dogs, ants even plants make choices. Philip De Rache — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.198.212.162 (talk) 09:03, 20 July 2013 (UTC)