Talk:Cholula, Puebla

Tepanapa
Various sites state that the name of the pyramid is "Tepanapa", or a spelling variant of that. Is there a reason this is not mentioned in the article? &mdash; Hippietrail 15:59, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Questionable "facts"
Fellow editors: This article has a couple of questionable "facts": that Cholula was part of the Aztec empire and that it had a population of 100,000. First, I had not heard tht Cholula was conquered by the Aztecs. Second, 100,000 seems awfully high. M E Smith's study of populations on the eve of the Spanish conquest puts Tenochtitlan at 212,000 with every other town at 30,000 or less. While Cholula's population was not estimated, Texcoco's was, and was pegged at 24,000 and Tzintzuntzan at 30,000. It is hard to believe that Cholula was that much larger.

Any help out there?? Madman 00:46, 26 August 2006 (UTC)


 * I think you are right friend Madman, and there's a need for further clarification of sources here. It's probably best to present a range of pop. estimates from such notable sources as one can find (Smith a good example), since not too much on this is known with any great certainty.


 * Also- as with other Mesoamerican locations where there is a modern settlement atop or adjoining a pre-columbian one, I think it would be useful to split out into separate articles, one for the old, one for the new (which of course can cross-reference each other).


 * Not saying that I'm about to get around to either of these activities any time soon, just really a placeholder / mention in case anyone else has the desire or time...--cjllw | TALK  08:04, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Largest Man-Made Structure By Volume
This claim was inserted by this edit, the intent of which was merely to move content out to the main pyramid article. However, it changed the claim from largest pyramid/monument to largest structure by volume. However, two larger structures appear on the List of largest buildings in the world. I've weakened the claim back to what the article originally said. --Bazzargh (talk) 10:43, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Etymology
What is the source for the etymological name being Acholōllān, and not Cholōllān (which seems to occur elsewhere)? 71.82.211.210 (talk) 05:43, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I would say vandalism. I put it there as cholollan originally I didn't notice it was changed. Acholollan = 0 hits on google scholar. Cholollan = 117 hits. ·Maunus· · ƛ · 06:56, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Undo of merging

 * I've undone the recent merging of the Cholula (Mesoamerican site) article into this one (Cholula, Puebla). The former is concerned with the precolumbian site and major polity of central mexico, the latter with the modern day mexican city. These are quite different topics, and per the preceding discussions on this pg and elsewhere, they've been purposely separated. The fact that they used to be combined here explains some of the repetition of info; but regardless of what degree of text overlap there may be (and some overlap is to be expected, after all), these are still vastly differing topics with well-defined and independent scopes to cover. Each needs its own article; both also need to be decently expanded but that's a matter for some future edits. For the present, I see no compelling reason to merge these two together, and many disadvantages and confusions arising in doing so. Consider the examples of Tenochtitlan vs Mexico City, Mediolanum vs Milan, Byzantium vs Constantinople vs Istanbul, etc etc. --cjllw ʘ  TALK 03:40, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Modern Cholula is a continuation of Aztec Cholōllān on the same site. The 2 pages contained much information repeated between them, i.e. WP:Content forking. The combined page is not unwieldily big and it keeps the Aztec and post-conquest periods adequately separate. Anthony Appleyard (talk)
 * I would have to disagree about ur scope interpretation, and the extent by which the precolumbian city/institutions/practices/statehood 'lives on' or is continued by, the modern one (essentially founded anew in mid 16thC). What this present article needs, is much more material on the modern township, that shld avoid any concerns about over-duplicating info (tho some scene-setting repetition is to be expected, naturally enough). If I get a chance over the next wk or two will see abt expanding that, then hopefully one can see the articles are on separate topics and can live separately.--cjllw ʘ  TALK 07:58, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

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Much trimming needed for "Pyramid of Cholula and Nuestra Señora de los Remedios Church" section
The "Pyramid of Cholula and Nuestra Señora de los Remedios Church" should be reduced significantly since there are standalone Wikipedia articles for other the Great Pyramid of Cholula and Iglesia de Nuestra Señora de los Remedios, Cholula, no? --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 22:44, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

There are two "south" Virgin
 Nuestra Señora de los Remedios church 

This one was placed in the east, with the Virgin of Guadalupe to the north, the Virgin of Mercy to the south and the "Virgen de la Bala" to the south.[34]

Both of the Virgin of Mercy and Virgen de la Bala are to the south. Any west? Ccjudy (talk) 05:53, 23 November 2022 (UTC)