Talk:Chondromalacia patellae

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Patellofemoral Syndrome.
I was redirected to Chondrolomacia patellae from Patellofemoral Syndrome.

All the information I have suggests that Chondromalacia patellae is an older term for PFS that is now no longer in common medical use because it creates confusion between Chondromalacia and Patello femoral syndrome. The two are quite distinct conditions, although untreated PFS does sometimes lead to Chondromalacia. By itself PFS does not necessarily involve deterioration of the inner surface of the patella whereas chondromalacia does (with the classic "crab meat sign" showing up on x-rays).

I hate to suggest it here, but a quick google search for diagnostics on either condition will highlight the differences.

I hate patellofemoral syndrome...boo —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.161.55.114 (talk) 04:10, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

I am adding prognosis/ how to heal from about.com get a better source i guess, i think this is pretty important Foodistheanswer (talk) 06:36, 6 July 2011 (UTC)Foodistheanswer

--Mmc cyclone (talk) 15:12, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) http://www.healthscout.com/ency/68/633/main.html
 * 2) http://www.sports-injury-info.com/patella-femoral-syndrome.html
 * 3) http://www.medicinenet.com/patellofemoral_syndrome/article.htm
 * 4) http://www.mdconsult.com/das/patient/body/105501123-2/0/10061/7913.html
 * 5) http://www.aafp.org/afp/991101ap/2012.html
 * 6) http://www.spinalhealth.net/inj-pat.html
 * 7) http://www.healthhype.com/knee-cap-injury.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.183.25.194 (talk) 21:49, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
 * 8) http://www.rice.edu/~jenky/sports/pfs.html
 * 9) http://www.healthcentral.com/encyclopedia/408/633.html
 * 10) http://www.sportsinjurybulletin.com/archive/patello-femoral-syndrome.html
 * 11) http://www.fla-ortho.com/nav_secondary/faqs/faqs_kneecaps.htm
 * 12) http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/chondromalacia-patella/DS00777
 * 13) http://orthopedics.about.com/cs/patelladisorders/a/chondromalacia.htm
 * 14) http://www.msmoc.com/index.php~practiceId=1056&lib=Injury&dir=categories&categoryId=190.html
 * 15) http://www.orthoseek.com/articles/chondromp.html
 * 16) http://www.nlm.nih.gov/MEDLINEPLUS/ency/article/000452.htm
 * 17) http://www.eorthopod.com/public/patient_education/9738/chondromalacia_patella.html
 * 18) http://jointhealing.com/pages/knee/chondromalacia.html
 * 19) http://healthguide.howstuffworks.com/chondromalacia-patella-dictionary.htm
 * 20) http://www.cnn.com/HEALTH/library/DS/00777.html
 * 21) http://www.americanrunning.org/displayindustryarticle.cfm?articlenbr=1683
 * 22) http://www.mountsinai.org/Other/Diseases/Chondromalacia%20patella
 * 23) http://www.drkoop.com/ency/93/000452.html
 * 24) http://www.kneeandshoulder.md/print/print_chondro.html
 * 25) http://www5.aaos.org/oko/description.cfm?topic=SPO018
 * 26) http://www.arthroscopy.com/sp05032.htm
 * 27) http://www.wheelessonline.com/ortho/chondromalacia_of_the_patella
 * 28) http://jointhealing.com/pages/knee/chondromalacia_tx.html
 * 29) http://www.drugs.com/enc/chondromalacia-patella.html
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 * 32) http://www.pennhealth.com/ency/article/000452.htm
 * 33) http://www.merck.com/mmpe/sec19/ch284/ch284j.html
 * 34) http://orthopedics.about.com/cs/patelladisorders/a/kneecap.htm
 * 35) http://books.google.com/books?id=WDgC3ZrzW6EC&pg=PA524&lpg=PA524&dq=chondromalacia+patella&source=web&ots=9jBuVtoSub&sig=tCjQa8Vt-Yob6OS5feelWajz0ew&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=2&ct=result#PPA525,M1
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 * 38) http://www.drkiper.com/runners_knee.html
 * 39) http://www.jointrehab.com/chondromalacia_patella.htm
 * 40) http://www.ejbjs.org/cgi/content/abstract/58/1/1
 * 41) http://books.google.com/books?id=ACMHpUnj6CcC&pg=PT581&lpg=PT581&dq=chondromalacia+patella&source=web&ots=YoKYdbCjt1&sig=wxB9VEimJCxVxruBXBZGMosdWZY&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=1&ct=result
 * 42) http://www.medicinenet.com/patellofemoral_syndrome/index.htm
 * 43) http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6WD9-4CF15P3-1&_user=10&_rdoc=1&_fmt=&_orig=search&_sort=d&view=c&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=20253ef5a8701aaa3a975e1dfd63c515 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mmc cyclone (talk • contribs) 14:33, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Graded --JimmyButler (talk) 21:24, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Editing by AP Biology class
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High profile sufferers
"Recent high profile sufferers include Jonathan Jaidi of AFC Gippeswyk." Who? Why? - it isn't so bad - Jono has it, too... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.31.95.41 (talk) 23:30, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Popularity of surgery
User User:Cabazap removed a sentence about the declining popularity of surgery, saying, "the sourced information states the opposite". I read the cited source, and it seems to agree with the sentence that was removed. Can you clarify where you see the opposite? Piquan (talk) 00:11, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

"a term that goes back eighty years"
Don't forget to update this at least every few years! 72.218.224.187 (talk) 15:57, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

Alternative Causes and Surgical Treatments
Other known causes of chondromalacia patella from those mentioned, at least specifically include extended kneeling, crawling and/or falling on the knee-caps (a type of traumatic injury). It's worth note that a decent amount of military veterans have filed lawsuits claiming disability due to chondromalacia patella. The sourced cause is extended crawling and/or kneeling on hard surfaces, normally occurring during training. Most of the lawsuits filed have won lending credence the argument that chondromalacia patella can be caused by excessive crawling on one's knees.

Also the section on surgical treatments is lacking. There are surgical treatments for patellar lesions and/or trochlear lesions from serious non-improving chronic types. Treatment for this is similar to that for femoral condyles. Includes ACI (autologous chondrocyte implantation). Perhaps it should be simply re-directed to that or list the various articular cartilage lesion surgical options. Osteochondral allograft for example has reported 70% success rates for patellar lesions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:5B0:26FF:1EF0:0:0:0:3B (talk) 03:33, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

Patellae or patella?
Why isn't this article at Chondromalacia patella? —BarrelProof (talk) 19:08, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Requested move

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The result of the move request was: Withdrawn. Apparently, my Latin-fu skills are poor. BarrelProof (talk) 17:01, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

Chondromalacia patellae → Chondromalacia patella – WP:SINGULAR. Note that this is a condition that commonly occurs only for one patella. There has been no reply to my Talk page comment of 7 February 2014, so I am submitting a formal move request. I would consider this uncontroversial, but I see in the history a move of 24 September 2008 by Arcadian, reverting a move of 10 July 2008‎ by Sticky Parkin, saying "restoring ICD10, per MEDMOS". BarrelProof (talk) 19:37, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
 * In Latin, "patellae" here is first declension genitive singular and means "of the kneecap". The genitive plural would be "patellarum". Anthony Appleyard (talk)
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