Talk:Chris Henry (wide receiver)

Auto accident
This semi-protection stuff is nonsense. With everybody looking at this page for updates, there's no way that anybody would let unofficial information slide. Instead, I'm forced to read various typographic errors that make this article look like it was written by a second grader because I don't feel like registering for the one or two edits a month I make.75.75.161.181 (talk) 00:18, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
 * If people want a minute by minute report of what may be happening, or what is reported to be happening, Wikipedia may not be the right place for them. I do understand your concerns.. but the policies are that unsourced or questionably sourced information is a bad thing, and should be avoided. The two links I took out are questionably sourced, there is no fact-checking, etcetera. Right now, we're waiting for the official word. Once that happens, we'll update the article. SirFozzie (talk) 00:21, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Semi is appropriate on this article at this time.--Jojhutton (talk) 00:26, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Before anyone else re-adds the death info, please note the following from Fox Sports's Alex Marvez: From what i hear, some jerk made a fake twitter in a reporter's name and posted chris henry died. NOT TRUE. still alive as of 10 mins ago. (this was posted about 7:40 PM on his verified twitter). Alex does describe the situation as "dire" in a foxsports.com article, that Henry is on life support. SirFozzie (talk) 00:53, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Just to follow up. Anyone who is quoting "Gerry Fraley of the Dallas Morning News" for the reports.. you've been taken on this. the Twitter account that was purporting to be him (and the reports of his death came from) has been proven to be fake. SirFozzie (talk) 02:59, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

On December 16, 2009, Henry was involved in an auto acccident where he fell out of the back of his fiancee's pickup truck during a domestic dispute with his fiancee[1] and suffered life-threatening injuries. [2] REALLY GUYS? Is it that hard to spell "accident"? Nerdrokblak (talk) 04:22, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Fixed it. SirFozzie (talk) 04:23, 17 December 2009 (UTC)


 * I agree protected articles are needed, people think they are funny...this is not the place to do it. Garkeith (talk) 09:52, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

CHRIS HENRY HAS BEEN OFFICIALLY PROUNOUNCED DEAD —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.11.250.18 (talk) 14:58, 17 December 2009 (UTC)


 * yes he has been pronounced dead today, December 17, 2009: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4750615
 * http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091217/ap_on_sp_fo_ne/fbn_bengals_henry MACKDIESEL5 (talk) 15:06, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

Charlotte Observer says police issued a statement on his death. -- SEWilco (talk) 15:49, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

Loleini Tonga only has TWO children (boys Chris, Jr. and DeMarcus) by Chris - not three. Chris has a daughter in another city —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.72.193.104 (talk) 18:29, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Why is his death repeatedly referred to as an "accident?" Increasingly, more information has been emerging which strongly suggests his death was a suicide. 98.179.13.13 (talk) 02:48, 20 December 2009 (UTC)


 * I don't think it is considered suicide if someone falls out of a truck and sustains fatal head injuries. It was an accident.  Eagles   24/7  (C)  03:10, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
 * The quote I'm referring to which is circulating on a variety of news sites: "He was banging on the top, on the doors, screaming at the lady, 'We need to talk,'" Hardy said. "He said, 'If you take off, I'm going to jump off the truck and kill myself.'" It seems to me that when someone threatens to take their own life and is seconds later found dead, the link is somewhat clear.98.179.13.13 (talk) 04:53, 20 December 2009 (UTC)


 * As soon as police confirm it to be a suicide, it will be added to the article. At the current time though, it will be considered an accident.  Eagles   24/7  (C)  05:36, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

GeorgeC rewrite
I reverted User:GeorgeC rewrite of the introduction. It was loaded with peacock terms, unsourced statements (such as a bankruptcy), and talked only about his problems. Secret account 20:52, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Not to mention it was written like an essay. -- Mike Allen talk · contribs 23:46, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

College career statistic
i was looking around the internet to possibly find some more career stats for henry and i came across this

in the article it states that henry: "In 2003, he earned Big East Conference freshman of the year and All-Big East second-team honors for catching 41 passes and gaining 1,006 yards and scoring 10 touchdowns. He also became the second player in school history to record over 1,000 receiving yards in one season (behind David Saunders), and his 20.19 yards per reception are the third most in a season in school history.[1]"

first, should that be added in the info box on the right in the article, the freshman of the year honor (big east), and the all big east second team honors? maybe or maybe not, im not trying to argue here im just asking the question, no harm or snippyness intended.

secondly, i think that the stat with 20.19 yards per reception may be wrong. here in the school record book, it states that in 2003, he had 24.5 yards per reception in 2003. (page 155)

he is 4th all time in yds per reception, behind: Rich Hollins 1892 27.1 Jay Kearney 1993 25.9 Calvin Phillips 1988 25.5 Chris Henry 2003 24.5

first source (pdf file, pg. 155): http://www.msnsportsnet.com/content/football9.pdf

second source (this states 24.5 as well, he was 3rd in the conference that year w/ 24.5 yds/reception): http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/stats/bycategory?cat=Receiving&sort=15&conference=I-A_BIGE&year=2003

third source: http://westvirginia.rivals.com/cviewplayer.asp?Player=1681 (this may be related to the 2nd link)

fourth source (a USA TODAY article from 2005): http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/2005draft/Henry,Chris-WR-West%20Virginia.htm

let me know what you think, have a nice day! MACKDIESEL5 (talk) 00:37, 18 December 2009 (UTC)


 * upon looking at it again, the source referenced in the article, that source has 20.19 as his average for his whole career at WVU, however the way that the sentence is written makes it seem that he averaged 20.19 in the 2003 season, see what i mean? MACKDIESEL5 (talk) 00:43, 18 December 2009 (UTC)


 * noone has replied after a couple days, im going to go ahead and correct the error as i noted above from 20.19 to 24.5 MACKDIESEL5 (talk) 23:34, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Image
I nominated the current image for deletion. This is not a historic image. The image itself is not the subject of commentary, at all. The stated goal is to simply have an image of Chris Henry on the article - that is not enough for overcome the copyright. If anyone finds a free image of Chris Henry, please replace the current image with the free one. Brianga (talk) 01:19, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
 * There are copies of this image on Flickr, so I'm not so sure it is non-free.  Eagles   24/7  (C)  01:35, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
 * All of those images are copyrighted, proven by the "All rights reserved" under Additional Information. -- Mike Allen talk · contribs 02:53, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Since he's deceased the image is public domain see Joe Krol and Nick Adenhart as examples.-- Giants 27  ( Contribs  |  WP:CFL ) 03:04, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Facepalm* That is not how it works. A photo is not public domain just because its subject dies. You're doing it wrong. Save-Me-Oprah (talk)  04:19, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I admit that's a new one for me. Furthermore, an admin has already removed the image. -- Mike Allen talk · contribs 04:30, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Facepalm x2* Not sure why I thought that...-- Giants 27  ( Contribs  |  WP:CFL ) 19:26, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Found a couple of free images that don't show his face, both from 2006: one showing him getting a pass intercepted by Chris McAlister but showing only the back of Henry's jersey, another shows a #15 running out of bounds because of a catch. Andrewlp1991 (talk) 08:11, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

I nominate that this picture be changed. I do not think it is very appropriate to have a picture of another player making an interception on him. I feel as if we should pay respect to him and who he was. Any othe rpicture should do, even none at all is better than this. I do not think this should be the picture. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chrishenry15 (talk • contribs) 06:46, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Children
Chris and Loleini only had 2 children together. The oldest boy was not Chris's. He has a son w/ another woman. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.82.180.23 (talk) 18:49, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
 * You're saying that they had two children together, and that they each had a child by someone else? Can you provide any evidence? Lkjhgfdsa 0 (talk) 00:14, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

editsemiprotected request
The first part of the bio reads off all the problems with the player. It doesn't need to be up there when it is listed towards the bottom "Off the field problems". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.116.175.30 (talk • contribs) 05:27, 23 December 2009 (UTC)


 * If you like, you can provide an alternative version here, for discussion. How specifically would you like to see the article amended? UltraExactZZ Said~ Did 13:50, 23 December 2009 (UTC)


 * I added notdone. -- The New  Mikemoral  ♪♫ 17:52, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

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Death - confusing sentence
"On December 16, 2009, Henry sustained fatal injuries when he fell out of the back of a moving truck driven by his fiancee, Loleini Tonga, and his friend Sam Pahnisch, while they were engaged in a domestic dispute"

This opening sentence from the section is confusing about who was driving (naming 2 people who were both apparently driving).

It is also confusing about who was having the domestic dispute (it appears to say that Tonga and Pahnisch were having the dispute).

My inference is that Tonga was driving, and she was having the dispute with Henry, but I'm not confident enough of the facts to make a change to the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.243.80.180 (talk) 05:53, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

Death- likely incorrect
"While several former NFL players had been found to have the disease after their deaths, Henry was believed to be the first still-active NFL player to have it."

It seems unlikely that many reputable experts would suggest no NFL player has ever had CTE while active. CTE can only be diagnosed on death, thus any active player who did not die prior to retirement would not be diagnosed with CTE. Additionally, CTE would need to be assessed in the first place so many active players who have died in the past might not have had their brains assessed for CTE.

The sentence should read:

"While several former NFL players had been found to have the disease after their deaths, Henry is the first still-active NFL player to be diagnosed with it."

I will make this edit, but this is my rational. Cauchybro (talk) 00:14, 7 June 2023 (UTC)