Talk:Chris Pappas (politician)/Archive 1

Ray Burton
I note that on more than one occasion, people have removed the claim that Pappas was the first openly gay person elected to the New Hampshire Executive Council, with the edit summary explaining that Raymond S. Burton was the first — however, Burton's article does not describe, categorize or source Burton as being gay, and a Google search comes up completely dry on any verification of that claim too. And there are reliable sources out there which describe Pappas as being the first.

I can see four possibilities here:
 * 1) Burton was not gay and somebody's confusing him with Raymond Buckley (who never served on the Executive Council);
 * 2) Burton was gay in his private life but never came out to the general public, and thus can't be properly sourced as such — in which case the distinction goes to Pappas, because the operative word here is "openly";
 * 3) Burton came out during his time on the Executive Council — in which case (a) he and Pappas both have a valid distinction, because being the first to be elected when one is already out is just as important as (and in some ways more important than) being the first to come out while serving is, and (b) source it properly;
 * 4) Burton was indeed openly gay, and should properly be credited with the distinction — in which case source it properly.

There is, however, no damn way in hell that Burton was already out as gay in 1977. Even Harvey Milk was only just elected to office for the first time in that same year — so an openly LGBT person being elected to a statewide office would have garnered massive coverage and wouldn't be nearly as unsourceable as this claim is proving to be. Bearcat (talk) 21:27, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

Requested move 8 November 2018

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the move request was: not moved (page mover nac) Flooded  with them hundreds  18:31, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

– Prior to US election day, Chris Pappas the politician was a state-level officeholder in one of the country's smallest states, and thus was not really prominent enough to get deemed as WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for this page title — however, as of Tuesday he is now a representative-elect to the United States Congress, meaning his level of notability has nationalized. Of the three other entries on the dab page, two are fictional characters (one of whom has a standalone article while the other just has a redirect to a character list), and the last is a courtesy link to a person who's virtually always referred to in reliable sources as Christopher, never as just Chris — so the only really relevant primary topic comparison to the politician is the Neighbours character, and I believe that a national congressperson is important enough to claim primary topic rights over a fictional character. Bearcat (talk) 16:28, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Chris Pappas (politician) → Chris Pappas
 * Chris Pappas → Chris Pappas (disambiguation)
 * Completely agree as per the above Guyb123321 (talk) 18:05, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment a congressman is not really that notable especially a freshman עם ישראל חי (talk) 20:18, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Oppose for now |Chris_Pappas_(politician)|Chris_Pappas I see spikes, but also recent days when the soap character got more. Let him do something, then when notable it'll happen anyway. In ictu oculi (talk) 00:10, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Oppose per In ictu oculi. Two additional considerations. (1) Chris Pappas (Neighbours) is a WP:GA, and is five times the size of Chris Pappas (politician). That suggests considerable significance. (2) Choosing a WP:PTOPIC from a DAB page is a guarantee that it will collect bad links which are very unlikely to get found and fixed, thus degrading the encyclopaedia. I know one PTOPIC which averages 43 times more views than the secondary topic, but it collects bad links nevertheless. Narky Blert (talk) 19:00, 10 November 2018 (UTC)


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"Lifestyle"
From the citation, I don't know what Pappas' "lifestyle" is. I assume having sex with men is contrary to his religion. But I also assume it would be acceptable to his religion's doctrines if he was celibate. I don't think his lifestyle can be known without further info. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.88.59.121 (talk) 06:23, 27 February 2021 (UTC)