Talk:Christ Pantokrator

It would be helpful if citation was given to support the view in this page that Παντοκρατωρ does not mean "almighty", although it is from πας (all) and κρατος (strength). Although I am not an expert, I have nonetheless never heard this claim on the meaning of the term before.

Also, is there a particular reason why the word is spelled with what looks like the vocative (ορ instead of ωρ)?

Finally, isn't παντοκρατορος the genitive? rmagill 19:02, 4 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Indeed, in the most reliable of the NT lexicons, the 3rd edition of Bauer (BDAG) lists the primary meaning of Pantokrator as "Almighty, All-powerful." I believe that the understanding of Christ Pantokrator as "ruler of the universe" is a secondary and later understanding.  Unless someone can find citations to support "Ruler of the Universe," I will make a change in this article.  Pastordavid 23:17, 29 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Change made. Can someone who knows more about the usuage of the title by early Christians fill that section out?  An earlier revision credited the Council of Nicaea with ascribing this title to Christ -- but I didn't find that anywhere in the canons and decrees of Nicaea. Pastordavid 00:29, 2 December 2006 (UTC)