Talk:Christina Aguilera discography/Archive 2

Other appearances
— Preceding unsigned comment added by TeamXtinaLA (talk • contribs) February 22, 2012

release date!
I was looking at the sources for songs, and the release dates are wrong.

Back To Basics I dont see a source Hurt was released in september in and the same thing Candyman in february?

USA: Hurt shows it was released in december 16 2006, while Candyman in march 31. UK: Hurt released november 18, while Candyman march 10. AUS: Hurt released november 3, while Candyman April 6. GER: Hurt released november 27, while Candyman April 23.

Now i see aint not other man was not released in june it was released in july. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.154.108.168 (talk) 11:19, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

For Stripped singles released dates are all so wrong. Cant Hold Us Down released in September (no August release) while The Voice Whitin released in December and early 2004 (no November released).

Bionic Some sources like switzerland and australia it says that not myself tonight was released in March.

--91.154.108.168 (talk) 10:47, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

Moves Like Jagger
6x Platinum in Canada source--79.199.57.4 (talk) 16:13, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅  —  Jeff G. ツ  (talk)   00:43, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

7x Platinum in Canada - same source! --79.199.44.89 (talk) 11:08, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ Armbrust, B.Ed. Let's talk about my edits? 13:31, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

Wrong Links to prove albums sales
I'm not an expert in editing here so I don't know how to "prove" or "make someone in charge" realize that the link to source the worldwide sales of Back To Basics claim this album had sold 2.5 million worlwide, yet the fans use that link to prove the 5 million (lol) they assure. Back To Basics has hardly SHIPPED 4 million worldwide. If you wanna still claim it has sold 5 million, please give a reliable source where it says so, not one where you can read it has sold 2.5 million!!!!

They have done the same thing with "Stripped". The link provided as a source claim it sold 9 million worldwide. Yet they use it as to prove it sold 12 million. Ridiculous. Rub rb (talk) 12:56, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

I guess all you care about is links. I'm not going to take the time to find them all and I'm not the administrator here but I am a fan who has followed her career and read the magazine articles when she's on the cover, watched her biographies, etc. And I can tell you that Back to Basics had sold over 2.5 million copies worldwide by the end of 2006, and 4 million copies by the summer of 2007. It has since gone on to sell 6 million copies worldwide. These are completely accurate figures. You should spend you time paying attention to a celebrity you actually like. What a waste of time to come and post your BS to people who actually follow her career. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.137.132.60 (talk) 19:05, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

sales
My Kind of christmas has not sold WW: 6,000,000, thats alot more sales than her actual studio album (back to basics), this was just a hoilday album, it cant have sold as much, it was only certificated as platinum in the US, it cant have sold 5,000,000 in the rest of the world, and when i lookt at the source, its fake, and doesnt proov anything about the sales, this should be removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.154.109.90 (talk) 15:40, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

and what about bionic WW sales, no source, should also be removed —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.154.109.90 (talk) 15:43, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

My Kind of Christmas ACTUALLY HAS SOLD 6 MILLION WW. YES most of the sales are international. Holiday albums sell well in many parts of the world including europe and japan, but basically all over. Many of the sales after the first year aren't counted in soundscan the same way they are in the original promotion of the album. A lot of that has to do with it being categorized a catalog album, etc. But if you do your research you will find these figures ARE TRUE! MY KIND OF CHRISTMAS had been available for purchase since 2000 (almost 12 years now) and has sold 6 million copies. Mariah Carey's christmas album released 6 years earlier in 1994 has sold 16 million copies (more than many of her studio albums and only a fraction of those sales are from the USA). Holiday albums released by talented vocalists generally sell very well worldwide. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.137.132.60 (talk) 19:31, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

MTV claims stripped sold 12 mill
Ha!Read this link and then you will suck! MTV claims that Stripped sold 12 million worldwide. Read it and weep. Link= — Preceding unsigned comment added by Phoenix V (talk • contribs) August 18, 2006

No, I will not weeb cos fact of da matter read her biography which 25 mil albums sold! I will continue to change this article back until u accept, check her official under the bio section it states she's sold over 25 millions, this proves you album sales are exaggerated!Reuters article is a respected website and obtained the records sales from her own record label. I give you credit obtaining weblinks but the figures of 16mil, 12mil, 3.5mil, 3mil, 1mil are unrealistic as it amounts more than 30mil albums (35.5 mil to be exact), if this were the case her own website! (Check her own official biography) would stated over 25mil albums, this prove stripped did not sell 12mil and and debut lp did not 16mil. Check reteurs artcle Stripped sold 9.5m. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.13.241.105 (talk) August 28, 2006

The Rollingstone Aug 2006 and Reuters Articles are latest up to date that MTV is well old! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.13.250.112 (talk) September 19, 2006


 * Look, I like Christina a lot too, but lets be realistic. Her own record label has confirmed that she only sold over 25 million albums worldwide. We cant take info from other places like sites that use Wikipedia as a source or even MTV as the truth. Her own record label confirmed the album sales:


 * Christina Aguilera- 12.5 million
 * Stripped- 9.5 million
 * Mi Reflejo- 2.2 million
 * My Kind Of Christmas- 3 million
 * Just Be Free- over 1 millionLAUGH90 02:31, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

'''THANK U ! U R A REALIST! THERE ARE F**KING AIRHEADS FANS ON THIS WIKIPEDIA SITE''' SOME PEEPS SHOULD ACCEPT THA TRUTH! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.13.69.247 (talk) September 4, 2006

I agree that these are the sales


 * Christina Aguilera- 12.5 million
 * Stripped- 9.5 million
 * Mi Reflejo- 2.2 million
 * My Kind Of Christmas- 3 million

So sorry, but we have reference of the debut album sales, 17 million, not 12.5, and of Stripped, 12 million, not 9.5.We have references, those are the sales, like it or not.--XtinoFrost (talk) 17:58, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

But what I dont like is when someone takes away chart positions for half of the countries change the sales dont take away information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.141.12.18 (talk) October 14, 2006

Those are old sales figures!!! I was already an adult an paying attention to sales figures in 1999 and have continued to since. You young kids who don't know what you're talking about should stop posting. "Christina Aguilera" sales figures were 12.5 million worldwide by the end of the year 2000. That is over 12 years ago now, and it has continued to sell this entire time. Same with 'Mi Reflejo' and 'My Kind of Christmas' those figures are from 2002. And the figures you posted for 'Stripped' is from 2004. The sales figures for 2012: CA=17-21mil, MR=5mil, MKoC=6mil, JBF=1/2mil, Stripped=13+mil, B2B= 6mil, KGB=1.5mil, Bionic=1mil, Burlesque=1.5mil and total album sales= 50+mil. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.137.132.60 (talk) 19:18, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

Just be free is not a compilation album
Just be Free should be in the "Studio Album" section, not in the "Compilation". According to Wikipedia this is the definition for Studio Album: "A studio album is an album made up of tracks recorded in the controlled environment of a recording studio. A studio album contains newly written and recorded or previously unreleased or remixed material, distinguishing itself from a compilation or reissue album of previously recorded material, or live recording made at a performance venue. A studio album is usually planned and scheduled in advance, and may take anywhere from a few days to more than a year to complete. Some studio albums may include one or more covers, occasionally as live tracks within the studio album. Studio albums may also feature guest performers or session musicians that would not usually perform live with the artist. A studio album may also be released or rereleased years after it has been recorded, or even posthumously, containing material recorded before the death of the artist." --XtinoFrost (talk) 18:00, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

TO WHOEVER IS UPDATING THIS CHRISTINA AGUILERA WIKIPEDIA:
YOU MUST BE LOOKING AT OLD SALES FIGURES. FOR EXAMPLE, THE SALES FIGURES FOR "MI REFLEJO" AND "MY KIND OF CHRISTMAS" ARE FROM 2002. YOU DON'T THINK THEY'VE CONTINUED TO SELL ANY OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS? APPARENTLY, YOU ARE WRONG. XTINA HAS SOLD OVER 50 MILLION ALBUMS WORLDWIDE, AND OVER 75 MILLION RECORDS WORLDWIDE (OVER 100 MILLION RECORDS WORLDWIDE WHEN INCLUDING HER COLLABORATIONS.) HER MAIN ARTICLE IS ALSO MISSING IMPORTANT FACTS ABOUT SOME OF HER CAREER HIGHLIGHTS; SHE HAS ACCOMPLISHED MORE THAN YOU ARE WILLING TO ALLOW TO BE PUBLISHED HERE. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.137.132.60 (talk) 18:22, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

If you have good references it would be awesome, by now, those are the sales with good sources. And yes, I've been updating the WW sales of those 2 albums because there were none before. Again, the only way to prove that MKC and Mi Reflejo sold more is with references. --XtinoFrost (talk) 18:00, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

Worldwide Sales
I know most editors agree on the sources given there, but Mariah & Beyonce fan, oops, I mean, user Petergriffin9901 can't stand the success of Christina Aguilera. I know most editores agree that those sources are reliable. If not, tell why. --XtinoFrost (talk) 17:44, 9 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Can you stop bringing up other more successful females into this? Stick to your topic and argument! Frankly, if you think that I'm trying to "smear" her success, you better take a look at the numbers. She hasn't sold a fifth of what Carey has sold, or accomplished, so let's leave her out of this. The sources you keep placing, including that "coca-cola" one are not reliable. Even the NBC one is questionable, since its just promoting Aguilera's "success" (funny they list her worldwide sales at 30 million, maybe we should use this?) for "The Voice". I think, unfortunately, you are so hung up on making me a villain, and turning this into "fan wars", that you are not heeding my correct and honest advice here. You need reputable third-party (not labels or people that work with/for her) sources (news sites/agencies). Look at all the Carey pages. All very reliable sources. So instead of using her pages as a way to make an immature war, take them as an example for how your quality of work should be. These sources you keep placing are not acceptable.-- CallMe Nathan  &bull;  Talk2Me   23:07, 9 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Sigh. Even though your crappy attitude deserves absolutely no help, I found 2 reliable news sites that list Stripped at 10 million. There were none that listed 12 that I could find. The News Tribune and Portland Mercury.-- CallMe Nathan  &bull;  Talk2Me   23:42, 9 September 2012 (UTC)


 * You can believe I really didn't want to turn this into an inmature fan war, but I've seen that you never contributed in this page in older edits. Insted of adding, the editions were only deleting some of her work. Don't you think I already know Christina is not the selling female of the generation? That's why I try to add the small amount she have earned. They didn't listed her worldwide record sales, they listed her worldwide album sales. Now, in the other hand I do really apreciatte a lott that you at least add those two sources instead of deleting everything. I do thank you for that. But please, help us understand why "New Library" is more reliable than "Toonari Post"? or "Epagini"  --XtinoFrost (talk) 01:15, 10 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Sure thing. While I only devote my time to Carey articles, I am a frequent editor in all album/artist sales pages and lists, so hers happens to come up under my radar. I think you are misunderstanding the source. NewsLibrary is a website that allows you to purchase old news documents for viewership. Fortunately, the information we need comes up in the free preview they give. The article is actually The News Tribune (you can see that if you take another look) which, as a reliable third-party newspaper, is more reputable that Enapini or others you've posted.-- CallMe Nathan  &bull;  Talk2Me   02:02, 10 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Ok. I won't lie, it dissapoints me decreasing the sales so much. While the other ones may not be as realiable as third-party newspaper, they were believelable considering the certifications, they weren't inflated neither. Do, I...kind of, understand some of your concern. But I think it's ok by now, the priority is to have some of her WW sales at least. --XtinoFrost (talk) 05:45, 10 September 2012 (UTC)


 * This is very disappointing! Somebody please restore balance to what Christina actually is, and has sold! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.36.203.51 (talk) 00:43, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

That is exactly what we just did. Glad you noticed!-- CallMe Nathan  &bull;  Talk2Me   00:46, 11 September 2012 (UTC)


 * The consensus is still open to other editors do. --XtinoFrost (talk) 02:03, 12 September 2012 (UTC)


 * A). There really isn't any need for consensus since these are clear Wikipedia rules. Secondly, consensus is when you discuss (with logic) why you side with a certain way. Posting "this is bullshit" or "this isn't true" is not consensus, just rambling with nothing to back up your claim.-- CallMe Nathan  &bull;  Talk2Me   13:19, 12 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Just found this, which is claiming 12 million. I think it's just a number that RCA is using; which doesn't make it right. Record labels are known for inflating sales, so that's why we use secondary sources for such information. Zac   13:58, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Just found a source stating that Mi Reflejo sold 2.2 million worldwide. Zac   14:01, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
 * The Mi Reflejo source could definitely be used, but the 12 million Stripped is not reliable-- CallMe Nathan  &bull;  Talk2Me   16:45, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
 * That's what we are trying to do, aren't we? Discussing about which sources could work. :) --XtinoFrost (talk) 21:03, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Nathan, why did you reverted the reference of The Daily Telegraph for the debut album, and the name "Lotus"? (Confirmed in her Twitter acount) --XtinoFrost (talk) 21:58, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Mistake :) Gets confusing with all this reverting lol. BTW, the single cover and song are HOT! :)-- CallMe Nathan  &bull;  Talk2Me   21:56, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Hahaha, I know right!! :P --XtinoFrost (talk) 03:59, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

I know there is a Rolling Stone article about Scott Storch, where it states the 12 million copies of Stripped. I think I found it, the name of the article is Scott Storchs Outrageous Fortune. http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/10699242/scott_storchs_outrageous_fortune .But for some reason it keeps sending me to the main page. I don't understand why. What do you think Nathan? --XtinoFrost (talk) 05:44, 15 September 2012 (UTC)


 * I FOUND IT!!! I think I found the correct link!!!! http://web.archive.org/web/20080418042548/http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/10699242/scott_storchs_outrageous_fortune please!!! tell me this works!!! :( --XtinoFrost (talk) 06:00, 15 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Ah! I see you are finally getting the hang of this :) That source will most certainly work! See what I mean regarding reliable sources?-- CallMe Nathan  &bull;  Talk2Me   06:49, 15 September 2012 (UTC)


 * I do now!!! Thanks to you! Thanks a lot Nathan, and sorry for the missunderstanding. We shall revert those ones!!! --XtinoFrost (talk) 02:43, 16 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Sure thing :) Glad some good came of this! Sadly, other random users still don't get it and keep adding crap :S-- CallMe Nathan  &bull;  Talk2Me   10:49, 16 September 2012 (UTC)


 * I know! But as for now, I won't let more unreliable sources on this page. I'll try to make sure of that. --XtinoFrost (talk) 19:21, 16 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Can you at least put the WW Sales of all of the albums? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.190.195.240 (talk) 18:59, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
 * And Also, where did the sources from Back to Basics, Mi Reflejo, And My Kind of Christmas Come From? I'm not criticizing anything that anyone did, I just want to make sure the correct amount of albums is displayed. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.190.195.240 (talk) 23:41, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
 * How will this source do????????? http://foro.univision.com/t5/Musica-Pop/VENTAS-DE-CHRISTINA-AGUILERA-SEGUN-RCA/td-p/444790605#axzz21f6Xcnaa — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.190.195.200 (talk) 12:06, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

Keeps gettin better sold 495,000 not 400,000
We need a atualization in the Keeps gettin' better: A decade of hits sales.The album has sold 495,000 yet. http://www.billboard.com/column/chartbeat/ask-billboard-who-s-the-hot-100-s-king-elvis-1007955992.story|88marcus]] (talk) 21:12, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

Your Body
Your Body has peaked at 14 in the U.K.

http://singersroom.com/content/2012-11-07/Christina-Aguilera-Makes-UK-Chart-Debut-Lotus-Album-Leaks/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.69.140.79 (talk) 11:51, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

Discussion: Just Be Free in the Debut Albums section
Since users are making arbitrary editions without consensus, I guess this might concern us editors. As for me, I think Just Be Free definately shouldn't be in the Compilation Albums section nor the studio albums. So we should leave it in a Debut Albums section. --Watquaza (talk) 01:37, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I've never heard of a "debut albums" section before. It's a compilation of demo songs recorded prior to the release of her first album. A demo album is not released to buy commercially.  Statυs ( talk ) 09:15, 11 November 2012 (UTC)


 * It is not, but it was released UNOFFICIALLy, without the permition of Christina. And yes, you can check several discographys with a demo album section. It definately don't belong in the compilation section either. --Watquaza (talk) 17:55, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
 * It was not released without her permission, she wrote a note for the inlay of the album. Again, a demo album isn't available to buy.  Statυs ( talk ) 18:35, 11 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Even so, is the best place to place it. It definately doesn't belong in the compilation section either. --Watquaza (talk) 03:44, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
 * How so? it's a compilation of demos, and it's an album?  Statυs ( talk ) 03:48, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
 * See!!! Lot of demos, and it's an album --Watquaza (talk) 00:29, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

Just Be Free is a demo album and it should be in the "Demo albums" category. Chronisgr (talk) 18:38, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

Again, demo albums aren't made available to buy. It's a collection of demos.  Statυs ( talk ) 00:46, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
 * The demo album belongs to the compilations section. It's a compilation of demos, and not a studio album. — Tomíca (T2ME) 00:49, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

Your Body EP #14 in UK
http://singersroom.com/content/2012-11-07/Christina-Aguilera-Makes-UK-Chart-Debut-Lotus-Album-Leaks/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.172.97.240 (talk) 10:35, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

The Christmas Song as a My Kind of Christmas single
A consensus really shouldn't be needed here, since the references that are already there (Billboad and AllMusic) states it as a single of the album. --Watquaza (talk) 18:08, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Billboard just attaches the album it was released on, it's not going to say "non-album single" on Billboard. Nowhere does AllMusic call it a single from My Kind of Christmas. "The Christmas Song (Chestnuts Roasting on an Open Fire)" was released long before they even wanted to release a Christmas album. It was not released to promote the Christmas album, therefore it is not a single from it. With the logic of it being included on the album, would you say that every single that is on Keeps Gettin' Better is also a single from that album?  Statυs ( talk ) 09:19, 11 November 2012 (UTC)


 * It won't? Really? Cause it does with "The Prayer" and "Beautiful" with Beverly McClellan. And well, by your logic "just be free" is a compilation album so... If there is an album where it is attached, it should be included there. Regardless if it was released before the recording of the album, it doesn't really matter since the album did includes the song. --Watquaza (talk) 18:08, 11 November 2012 (UTC)


 * AllMusic: http://www.allmusic.com/song/the-christmas-song-chestnuts-roasting-on-an-open-fire-mt0011325580
 * Billboard: http://www.billboard.com/#/artist/christina-aguilera/chart-history/325726?f=379&g=Singles

The point of a single is to PROMOTE an album. The song doesn't promote the album, end of. Those two sources, as I explained, say nothing of what you're claiming.  Statυs ( talk ) 18:34, 11 November 2012 (UTC)


 * But it follows Wikipedia policy, rather than what you are claiming here. More editors should discuss this issues --Watquaza (talk) 03:46, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
 * There is no Wikipedia policy for such a thing.  Statυs ( talk ) 03:48, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
 * A single belongs to the album it is intended to promote, not all albums into which it appears. — ΛΧΣ 21™ 03:52, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

What I mean by that is that the pages above state the single as part of the album. --Watquaza (talk) 18:41, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

How many total records has Christina sold worldwide?
If she has sold 50 million ALBUMS then her total figure must be higher than 50 million. I have seen figures saying 80 million and even 100 million. If that's true, she needs to go on the Best selling recording artist list, as she's not on there at the moment. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.112.229.68 (talk) 17:30, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

Singles
First of all i dont think that the The Voice performances released to itunes, should be in the her main singles, Beautiful is a cover of her previous song, and whenn didnt songs need a radio release to be a single?? And they were just songs from live performances released digitally because of The Voice and promoting the contestants. And I Hate Boys for a few days ago, was classified again back to promo single, go to its bionic album page and its own page its a promo single.

--SillyHoe (talk) 10:23, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
 * WP:OR.  Statυs ( talk ) 19:48, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

OK. I have already expressed my opinion about "The Voice" singles. They should not be listed under "Lead singles" category. First of all, the cover version of Beautiful with Beverly McClellan is not a single and it was released to iTunes as part of "The Voice" competition. Is there someone who believes that "The Voice" version of "Beautiful" should be listed among Christina's commercial singles?Chronisgr (talk) 21:57, 10 December 2012 (UTC)


 * I do also think they just don't belong there. Does being for sale makes it a single? And I think in this case the money doesn't go to her label. --Watquaza (talk) 17:22, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

Since no one believes that those singles should be under the "Lead singles" category, we should move them to "Other Charted Songs" or "Promotional Singles".Chronisgr (talk) 18:28, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Party_%28song%29

Party is not a single, and it has the same situation as the voice singels, theyr only relased digitally to itunes, so why are these singels and not Party then? Makes no sense! --91.154.97.180 (talk) 17:13, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

In general, i have noticed that there is a different treatment for Christina's discography compared to other artists (eg. reviews from Billboard are not allowed to be added on Lotus page, while the new albums of other artists include Billboard, International albums charts are used in other wiki pages, while they removed them from "Lotus" etc).

Anyway, so everyone agrees that "The Voice" singles should change category. Fine. Which is the right category for you? "Other charted songs" or "Promotional Singles"? Chronisgr (talk) 00:12, 18 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Strong Support: Those songs were never actually released as singles, never had real promotion. They just happened to be successful in the charts due to being available on Itunes. --Watquaza (talk) 01:35, 18 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Strong oppose. More WP:OR *yawns*. Please read up of what a single actually is.  Statυs ( talk ) 05:43, 19 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Strong Support: Just because of digital download doesnt make it a single, and it was used for The Voice promotion of the live performances. And Beautiful is a cover of Xtina own song. --91.154.109.191 (talk) 16:05, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

And? how is that related to The Voice performances? How is it possible a cover version of Christina's 2002 single ("Beautiful" in our case) to be considered as a lead single? The song is credited as Christina Aguilera & Beverly McClellan, it was released by Universal Republic Records (not Christina's label RCA Records) and it was released to iTunes as part of "The Voice" promotion (the top 4 final artists had duets with their coaches). Have you checked the wiki pages of other artists? Blake's duets with his team are under the "Other charted songs" category, as they should be.Chronisgr (talk) 15:50, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Stop with this "other pages are like this" crap. It doesn't matter. They were released, apart from an album, as their down separate thing. That's what a damn single is. Nothing else matters. Unless you have a source calling it a promotional single, it's not. Stop with the WP:OR, just because WP:IDONTLIKEIT.  Statυs ( talk ) 16:31, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
 * "Christina Aguilera & Chris Mann", a duet. "The Prayer" and "Beautiful" has the same type of release that "Moves Like Jagger" had. Is that a promo single or other charted song? Also, "Reflection" wasn't released by RCA. Does that make that song not a single either? And please remember that using multiple accounts is against Wikipedia policy. I know one of you is all of these IPs that keep showing up.  Statυs ( talk ) 16:35, 19 December 2012 (UTC)


 * That is a serious acusation, watch what you are saying. How is the same type of release? Did The Prayer had an appearance on the American Music Awards? Did The Prayer had an official music video? Did The Prayer supported an album? NO. --Watquaza (talk) 02:16, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, it is quite a serious issue. All the IP users seem start with "91", how odd. You need to find out what a single actually is. A music video, performance at the AMAs and being supported by an album doesn't make a song a single. Initially, when singles were first released, they never appeared on albums.  Statυs ( talk ) 03:24, 20 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Well, in this digital era now every song is available to be bought alone in itunes, that would make it a single then? Cause every song available on itunes will be a single, won't it? --Watquaza (talk) 08:06, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, we are now in the digital era. Meaning CD singles have been replaced by digital singles. A CD single shows a song is a single, and so does a digital single. Obviously, not every song available on iTunes is a single, but every song, that is "released apart from an album" (definition of a single) is. <font face="Arial" size="2em"> — Statυs  ( talk,  contribs ) 08:45, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Bullshit. It's ridiculous to include a cover version of the 2002 single "Beautiful" as a new single and mind you that Moves Like Jagger was an official single which was added by radio stations and it was included in the re-release of Maroon 5's album "Hands All Over". So, don't compare them. "The Voice" singles (The Prayer and the acoustic version of Beautiful) were released to iTunes because that was part of the show's rules, the sales of the songs were counted as votes for the show's finale ("Genie 2.0" was released to iTunes as well but i don't see anyone claiming to be an official single). To sum up, they were released to promote "The Voice" and they were not Christina Aguilera's commercial singles so they do not belong among her other lead singles. 188.4.60.184 (talk) 15:21, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Include Other appearances, are official

 * Don't Make Me Love You ('Til I'm Ready) - The Next Best Thing: Music From The Motion Picture
 * We´re a Miracle - Pokémon: The First Movie: Music From And Inspired by The Motion Picture
 * To Beautiful For Words - Pop To The Power Of 16
 * Silent Night/Noche De Paz - Platinum Christmas
 * Miss Independent (co-wrote)- Kelly Clarkson - Thankful
 * Like A Virgin/Hollywood Medley (2003 MTV VMA Performance) - Madonna feat. Christina Aguilera, Britney Spears & Missy Elliot - Remixed & Revisited
 * Mother - Christina Aguilera feat. Bigelf- Instant Karma: The Amnesty International Campaign To Save Darfur
 * Live With Me (Live) - The Rolling Stones feat. Christina Aguilera - Shine a Light
 * Falling in Love Again (Can't Help It)- used in end credits of "The Spirit"
 * Casa de Mi Padre - Casa de Mi Padre: Original Motion Picture Soundtrack
 * Steppin' Out With My Baby - Tony Bennett with Christina Aguilera - Viva Duets
 * Baby, It's Cold Outside - Cee Lo Green feat. Christina Aguilera - CeeLo's Magic Moment
 * The Blower's Daughter - Chris Mann feat. Christina Aguilera - Roads
 * Feel This Moment - Pitbull feat. Christina Aguilera - Global Warming

Plus


 * Dreamy Eyes, Tan Emocional (So Emotional) and Nasty feat. Cee Lo Green (only are leaks)
 * What Child Of This, I Come Undone and All I Wanna Do (recordings before RCA)

--189.172.210.59 (talk) 22:05, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Sales before or after certifications?
Most pages have it before the certifications. --Watquaza (talk) 19:47, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

I disagree! It looks better with certifications first, besides that's preferred in other wiki discography pages. Chronisgr (talk) 22:12, 26 January 2013 (UTC)


 * For me and others it doesn't, the certifications aren't as relevant as the sales. And the empty spaces are better at the end. --Watquaza (talk) 22:44, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

the other who? Certifications are based on sales/shipments and they are indication of an album's success. Yeah it's all about sales but we can't update the numbers of copies sold every week/month so certifications work better in my opinion. Plus, other wiki pages seem to follow that pattern too.Chronisgr (talk) 21:15, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Nobody Wants to Be Lonely
Can anybody tell me that why "Nobody Wants to Be Lonely" is Aguilera's single as main artist (not as featured artist)? HĐ (talk) 10:38, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

New Single as featured Artist
Alejandro Fernández feat. Christina Aguilera "Hoy Tengo Ganas de Tí" https://itunes.apple.com/mx/album/hoy-tengo-ganas-ti-feat.-christina/id647432074

--189.172.39.50 (talk) 22:55, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

One single missing
The page doesn't include Save Me From Myself (2008), the fifth single from Back To Basics, released after the birth of Aguilera's son and dedicated to her then husband. There is also a video for the song, which should be listed in the videography. By Maurizio — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.50.47.195 (talk) 01:53, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
 * It's just a normal song. It has a music video doesn't mean that it is a single. HĐ (talk) 08:59, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Singles?
Missing one single: "Ven Conmingo (Solamente Tu)" from Mi Reflejo. Also, I don't think that "Beautiful" and "The Prayer" (live at The Voice) are singles. Source from iTunes doesn't prove it. For example: "Speak Now" by Taylor Swift was released as a promotional single, but iTunes says it IS a single. HĐ (talk) 08:59, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Music video of Save me from myself!
Why the video of save me from myself was not included on the approprieted session?? Is an official video!--88marcus (talk) 20:15, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Singles? (again)
As I said, "Beautiful" and "The Prayer" live at The Voice were not SINGLES! Source from iTunes PROVES NOTHING! They must have sent to radio stations to be singles. Please, don't ADD them anymore! &mdash; HĐ (talk) 03:29, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

We're Miracle & Don't Make Me Love You
Both soundtracks can't be considered Aguilera's albums, they are various artists sountracks. So both songs must appear on "Other Apperances" --Watquaza (talk) 20:25, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I think you're confused. Both of those songs appear on editions of Christina Aguilera. <font face="Arial" size="2em"> — Statυs  ( talk,  contribs ) 15:33, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Forgot that, you're right! Thanks. --Watquaza (talk) 07:01, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
 * No problem, haha! — Status  ( talk  ·  contribs ) 07:05, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

Singles
Why are featured singles in the same as Xtina owns singles? Its just messy! There was no problem having them separate!

--85.76.19.216 (talk) 19:47, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

New Compilations
i think is not necessary many of the "new compilations", because they are exclusive for a one region or reissues of her previous material. And video compilations in wrong sections, just look bad. Even her doesn't know the existence of this material.

--189.172.37.71 (talk) 21:53, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

UK Certifications

 * Bionic - Silver
 * Christina Aguilera - Platinum
 * Stripped - 6xPlatinum
 * Ain't No Other Man - Silver
 * Beautiful - Silver
 * Candyman - Silver
 * Genie in a Bottle - Platinum
 * Dirrty - Silver
 * Feel This Moment - Silver
 * Stripped Live in the UK - Platinum

http://www.bpi.co.uk/certified-awards.aspx --189.172.88.68 (talk) 01:07, 4 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks for telling us know! &mdash; HĐ (talk) 04:45, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

Hoy Tengo Ganas de Ti
Sales and certification: http://www.la-razon.com/la_revista/espectaculos/Alejandro-Fernandez-presenta-nuevo-maduro_0_1895810467.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by GabrielDirrty (talk • contribs) 01:31, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

Say Something
Why is Say Something in featured singles? Its a duet between the band and Xtina so it should be in her main singles. Featured singles are when an artist is featured on the song. Say Something is a duet!

--91.154.101.138 (talk) 12:02, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

Singles Section
Recently I've seen that several users have been editing this section. So let me say it clearly:


 * "Show Me How You Burlesque" was released as an official single on iTunes Stores in many countries (except the US and the UK), so why isn't it a single?


 * "We Remain" was a single even more clearer: it was sent to RADIO STATION and was eventually released on Amazon.com. So how could it be a promotional single only?

Okay, this will be the last time, please DO NOT edit the section anymore, as there are many sources to prove they're singles!

&mdash; Simon (talk) 12:29, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

We've been editing the section because these songs are NOT official singles and cannot be compared to Christina's official lead singles.


 * Show Me How You Burlesque was NEVER released as a single for the soundtrack Burlesque. It only charted due to high digital sales (the song was the final number on the movie). It wasn't even sent to radio, there was no official music video or remixes.


 * We Remain is a promo single, it was released 1 month before the release of the soundtrack in digital retailers and that's all. Promo singles got add dates in several occasions ("Express" was premiered on Ryan Seacrest's radio show but it wasn't a single). "Atlas" by Coldplay is the official single off the Hunger Games.

Chronisgr (talk) 14:21, 25 November 2013 (UTC)


 * "Express" was NOT added to a RADIO STATION for A WEEK but only A DAY on A RADIO SHOW, however "We Remain" was clearly sent to a RADIO STATION (you have to noticed that radio show and radio station are different, just like "Raining Men (song)"). And "Show Me How You Burlesque" was released digitally on iTunes Stores, doesn't need to be included on radio stations (like "Check on It"). Also, a single does not need remixes or music videos (like "Oh Mother"). &mdash; Simon (talk) 04:38, 26 November 2013 (UTC)


 * We Remain is only a buzz song of the soundtrack, a promo single. Louis Erisson (talk) 03:13, 27 November 2013‎ (UTC)
 * Source, please? &mdash; Simon (talk) 04:25, 27 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Promo singles are sent to radio stations just to promote certain events (eg. a movie). It's the case of We Remain.

Show Me How You Burlesque cannot be called a "single", it didn't receive the treatment of a commercial single. The soundtrack of Burlesque did not have a proper commercial single. The release on iTunes doesn't prove that it's a commercial single, it was done for promotional purposes and to increase the sales of the song. Almost all the labels do that for forthcoming releases (example Cassadee Pope's label released three songs to iTunes prior to the album's release, it was done for promotional purposes). Oh Mother is a completely different case, it had a music video and was sent to TV stations in German-speaking countries and UK.Chronisgr (talk) 22:05, 27 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Everything that you said all need sources. If you said that, why were "Atlas" and "Check on It" were singles? And how did you know that "it was done for promotional purposes and to increase the sales of the song"? &mdash; Simon (talk) 04:27, 28 November 2013 (UTC)


 * It's common sense. I gave you the example of Cassadee Pope before, the songs her label released to iTunes weren't commercial singles ("Wasting all these tears" is the lead and current single) How can i provide sources for a song that wasn't released as a single lol? "Show Me How You Burlesque" charted due to high digital sales, i already explained that before. It wasn't a single in the sense of a commercial single sent to retailers and media. Burlesque had "Express" as a promo single and "You Haven't Seen the Last of Me" which was sent to dance/club format. Chronisgr (talk) 21:34, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Lol, if "You Haven't Seen the Last of Me" was sent to dance/club format, then "We Remain" was also sent to mainstream format? &mdash; Simon (talk) 09:57, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
 * The radio release of We Remain was cancelled, Atlas is the only official single off the soundtrack and it was actually included in the movie. We Remain was just a promotional single used in trailers of the movie.Chronisgr (talk) 15:27, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Cancelled? Really? This source says the opposite thing. &mdash; Simon (talk) 04:44, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
 * that source just shows that it was originally sent to radio. Still, it doesn't make it a commercial single that should be added next to her lead singles. It was a promo single for the soundtrack of the movie, Atlas remains the first and official commercial single.Chronisgr (talk) 23:10, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
 * How do you know it was cancelled? &mdash; Simon (talk) 04:48, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Fine, let's pretend it was sent to radio and wasn't cancelled. How does it make it an official commercial single next to Hurt, Candyman, Dirrty and the other commercial singles of her discography? We Remain was released as a promo single, Atlas is the only commercial single off the soundtrack.Chronisgr (talk) 12:13, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
 * It was sent to radio doesn't mean it was a single? You still don't understand? Maybe you deny it was a "commercial" single because it did not well-charted though... Go and ask other members (Like Status, for example, maybe they'll make you understand) &mdash; Simon (talk) 13:06, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
 * A source that "We Remain" is still an official single. You can purchase it separately than the album. So no discussion, the song is a single and Xtina is set to perform it at The Voice. — Tomíca (T2ME) 13:17, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Promo singles are sent to radio for promotional purposes such as to promote movies. Don't you understand it? I don't "deny" anything, We Remain has sold 100,000 copies and was barely promoted and didn't have airplay or a music video. You can hardly say that "it did not well-charted". If i wanted to do what u just said, i would have removed Your Body and You Lost Me so you're proved wrong once again.

The amazon download still doesn't prove anything considering the soundtrack wasn't released back on October 1st so the label decided to release Elastic Love and We Remain as promo singles. Christina performed "Make the World Move" and "Let There Be Love" on The Voice last year but they weren't singles, so that point is not valid.Chronisgr (talk) 16:17, 8 December 2013 (UTC) Chronisgr (talk) 16:17, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

You still don't understand? How many times I have to say more? She performed on The Voice doesn't mean they are purchased on online stores, however "We Remain" was even sent to RADIO and also PURCHASED FOR ONLINE SALES! How about "Raining Men"? It was sent to radio thus it was a single! &mdash; Simon (talk) 04:42, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Ugh now you messed the list again! "Express" was clearly released as s single (it was sent to radio in Australia!) and so did "Show Me How You Burlesque" (digital single). Please fix &mdash; Simon (talk) 07:48, 14 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Actually you messed the list and you should stop claiming what you do is the right thing. You should be open to different interpretations of what a commercial single and what a promo single is and let other Wikipedians have a say. It's not your page. Show Me How You Burlesque was released to iTunes to promote the soundtrack, just like the new tracks off "KGB:ADOH". Check the list. It was never sent as an official single off the soundtrack. "Express" was a promo single to Australian radio, just like it was premiered on Ryan Seacrest's radio show in US for promo. That happened before the movie was released at theaters and to create buzz. Chronisgr (talk) 10:47, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
 * You've misunderstood "radio show" and "radio station" again &mdash; Simon (talk) 12:26, 14 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Just to clarify that i'm open to discussions about the page in general so there's always the case of being wrong. I'm not here to fight with other Wikipedians but to actually contribute towards the page as much as i can. But you also seem not to understand the difference between a promo single and a commercial single.Chronisgr (talk) 19:47, 14 December 2013 (UTC)


 * So tell me the differences? &mdash; Simon (talk) 03:38, 15 December 2013 (UTC)


 * And tell me what's the different between "Genie 2.0" and "Beautiful (with Beverly)" or "Dynamite" and "Show Me How You Burlesque". Exactly.Chronisgr (talk) 17:50, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Recent edits
I don't think that the information of "Moves Like Jagger" is really needed in this list. "Moves like Jagger" made Aguilera "the fourth female artist, behind Madonna and Janet Jackson (1980s, 1990s, and 2000s) and Britney Spears (1990s, 2000s, and 2010s), to top the Hot 100 in three decades, as well as the eighth artist overall" ---> where is the source? Even in its own article doesn't prove this. Also "Feel This Moment" did not achieve anything special, and all the two singles were just only Aguilera's featured singles, so why should we include the information in the list? &mdash; Simon (talk) 04:45, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
 * And I have to say that sources for "Say Something" sales (such as Hit Daily Double) doesn't belong to WP:RS &mdash; Simon (talk) 05:00, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Mi Reflejo sales
Source: http://paratodos.com/pt/christina-aguilera-abrilmayo-2011/ Archive: http://www.webcitation.org/6DUGflfVm

In source says Mi Reflejo sold over 5 million worldwide. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GabrielDirrty (talk • contribs) 05:14, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

Isn't it too much though? How is it possible to have sold 5 million copies worldwide?

The following source mentions the album's ww sales in the 3 million region and it looks more reliable in my opinion.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/26/AR2007082601348_2.html Chronisgr (talk) 17:30, 20 January 2014 (UTC)


 * In my opinion Para Todos is a WP:RS (just like your opinion with "Hits Daily Double") &mdash; Simon (talk) 03:46, 25 January 2014 (UTC)


 * If you think so, add it. If you really think that Mi Reflejo has sold 5 million copies worldwide, do it. Hits Daily Double is a reliable source and it specializes in charts and record sales in United States. Besides, the last figure for SS sales was 1.9m and HDD puts the song's sales "over 2 million". What's wrong with that? Isn't it normal the song to have sold over 2 million since the last time it was reported to have sold 1.9 million copies? It's #2 on Digital Songs chart and sold over 200,000 copies this week. I don't get what's your problem.Chronisgr (talk) 11:09, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
 * What makes you think "Hits Daily Double" a RS? &mdash; Simon (talk) 11:20, 25 January 2014 (UTC)


 * and what makes you think it's not? It's a reliable source among chart experts and recognized by the music industry. It's not a fan site, a blog or an unofficial website. It's the website which collaborates with retail stores and posts the building albums chart for Billboard 200 Chronisgr (talk) 14:00, 25 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Recognized by who? &mdash; Simon (talk) 04:21, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Also you need to provide sources for the information you added (which I have placed cn) &mdash; Simon (talk) 04:21, 26 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Billboard uses Hits Daily Double building albums chart among other music websites.

I don't need to provide anything because there are already sources for the info i added, you just need to look carefully. Chronisgr (talk) 18:55, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

Single Sales Column
I think it would be best for this article to remove the sales column from singles table for the following reasons:


 * Sales figures are not available for single for many markets; usually only US and UK are available
 * Mixing sales and certifications is messy and confusing
 * Singles' sales figures are not updated as regularly as albums, and after a few years the media stop reporting on older singles.
 * Wikipedia-wide consensus tends toward the proposed WP:DISCOGSTYLE, and I haven't seen many discography pages like this.

Please consider my suggestion for this page seeing as that the sales column also has minimal information in it. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.246.148.98 (talk) 21:49, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Great idea!--88marcus (talk) 03:49, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

Singles Section- "Say Something"
The last single listed under section "as the main artist" is not her song. It's A Great Big World's song. They did a version with her and also one without her. It should be moved to the "as a featured artist" and it should say "A Great Big World ft. Christina Aguilera", not the other way around. The album listed is *their* album, not hers. Also, the reference to the Canadian gold and platinum charting does not list "Say Something" on the chart. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Taemint (talk • contribs) 06:12, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
 * iTunes Store says that "A Great Big World and Christina Aguilera", which means that Aguilera is the main artist on the song. &mdash; Simon (talk) 11:02, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

A Great Big World & Christina Aguilera, it's a duet. — Status  ( talk  ·  contribs ) 11:21, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

BMG
I think it's OR to list SoundScan sales, then just add up said BMG sales (from a questionable source). Do we have any sources confirming BMG sales are not included in Nielsen's tally? As already stated, the BMG source is questionable (to say the least) in my eyes.-- Peter Griffin  &bull;  Talk2Me   00:18, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
 * How could SoundScan sources be OR? &mdash; Simon (talk) 02:09, 22 May 2014 (UTC) I have fixed this issue. HĐ (talk) 05:58, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

Christina Aguilera (album)
Her first album sold more than 19 million worldwide, according Mymovies.it. It seems a reliable source. http://www.mymovies.it/biografia/?s=560 187.35.58.62 (talk) 00:51, 11 May 2015 (UTC)