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WP:COMMONNAME
I notice that there has been some back-and-forth page moving related to players who display names on the backs of their jerseys that are not really commonly found in reliable sources. Can someone tell me more about the rationale here? Just trying to learn more about the thought process and how it might work with guidelines like WP:COMMONNAME, which says to factor in a name's "prevalence in a significant majority of independent, reliable English-language sources". I saw that some of the edit summaries referred to consensus that was achieved in November on this issue, but I haven't been able to track that down. I was just hoping to learn more about this issue. Thanks. EricEnfermero (Talk) 19:03, 1 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Here's a discussion on it. Certified Gangsta has been moving pages to add suffixes that the players have on the back on their jerseys. However, I think that they should all probably be moved back, per WP:COMMONNAME. For example, the majority of sources don't call Devin Hester, Devin Hester Sr. Googling "Devin Hester" brings back 431,000 results and "Devin Hester Sr." has 1,300 results. I think he had Sr. on the back of his jersey for one season (2016). I reverted the moves and Certified Gangsta moved them back to the suffix version. Per WP:Bold, revert, discuss, he should start a WP:Requested move instead of moving it back to his preferred version.

Here are the pages under discussion.


 * Jamie Collins (American football) to Jamie Collins Sr.
 * Thomas Davis (American football) to Thomas Davis Sr.
 * Marvin Jones (wide receiver) to Marvin Jones Jr.
 * Will Fuller to Will Fuller V
 * Christine Michael to Christine Michael Sr.
 * Golden Tate to Golden Tate III
 * Darius Slay to Darius Slay Jr.
 * Devin Hester to Devin Hester Sr.
 * Mohamed Sanu to Mohamed Sanu Sr.

Thanks. WikiOriginal-9 (talk) 23:54, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the info. I agree with you on the need for a WP:RM. The discussion you link above - is that what is being characterized as "consensus" in the recent edit summaries? If so, I would find the assertion of consensus to be dubious. EricEnfermero (Talk) 02:19, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
 * There is a related discussion at Talk:Devin_Hester. Cheers.—Bagumba (talk) 02:08, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

As for Michael's article, I see that his NFL and pro-football-reference profiles don't list him as "Sr." There are over 4,000 Google News hits for "Christine Michael" and only 10 for "Christine Michael Sr." Seems the COMMONNAME is without "Sr." I am going to boldly movie back to the previous longstanding name due to lack of consensus to have changed it.—Bagumba (talk) 10:38, 25 April 2018 (UTC)