Talk:Christopher Ryan (author)

description of PhD university
User Steeletrap removed mention of the fact that Saybrook University is "an accredited hybrid low-residency/online learning program based in San Francisco" saying it was "undue". I have reverted Steeletrap's deletion because Saybrook is a rare institution and most PhDs are not awarded this way. The description of Saybrook is directly from their webpage and this seems relevant to Ryan's background and is not judging the PhD program as good or bad, just pointing out that it is not the average (which is consistent with Ryan's diverse and eclectic background). I hope we can discuss further here and come to consensus and avoid edit wars and such.-Pengortm (talk) 18:11, 18 January 2014 (UTC)


 * I agree with your description of Saybrook, but maintain that describing its 'rare' nature in Ryan's bio is gratuitous. Certainly, educated readers will know that Saybrook is not an elite school, even if they don't know what it is. They can click on its entry and read about it if they are so inclined. We do not -- and should not -- describe the reputation (elite, mediocre or weak) of the educational institutions one has attended in a BLP. Steeletrap (talk) 20:01, 19 January 2014 (UTC)


 * IDK whether we should list the reputation of schools one has attended in a BLP or not. I could imagine cases where this might be very appropriate (not certain of wiki standards on this). In any case, the reputation of the school is not commented on ('elite, mediorce or weak' is not done). The nature of the program is simply described and readers left to evaluate themselves with no comment on the reputation value of the school. Receiving a PhD from a low-residency/online learning program is very uncommon, so I think even educated readers might not realize this. -Pengortm (talk) 06:39, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

Not notable
I don't think Ryan is notable enough for an article, especially not one about him in addition to the article about his book Sex at Dawn. At least one should be deleted.Overagainst (talk) 18:09, 30 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Sex at Dawn is certainly notable. Ryan, I'm not sure. I think he's a borderline case. There may well be enough secondary sources available here and there dealing with him that a case could be made. But I can't really be bothered to investigate. If you believe it should be deleted, I advise nominating it for deletion to attract further comment from people familiar with the precedent. Peregrine981 (talk) 21:17, 30 July 2014 (UTC)


 * PengortmI seems to be the editor most concerned with the article, and I didn't want to nominate it for deletion before informing Pengortm on his talk page, as a courtesy.Overagainst (talk) 13:59, 1 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the concern and courtesy. I don't have very strong feelings about this and haven't looked in extensive detail yet, but my quick reading of the notability policy is that Ryan qualifies as notable pretty easily. I'd urge you to read the notability policy carefully first. If after that you still think it should be deleted, I agree with Peregrine981 that you should nominate it for deletion and we can discuss there along with other editors who are more qualified. If you think a re-direct to Sex at Dawn from Ryan's page would be best, than you might also submit this recommendation (not sure if that is done through the deletion board or some other means).--Pengortm (talk) 02:14, 2 August 2014 (UTC)

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