Talk:Chronopost

Expansion
I have created this initial stub out of info on their site. It would be great if someone with more info about this company could expand the article. —lensovet–talk – 04:10, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Scamming
I took this out of the main article since it is essentially unsourced and is not really appropriate for the article. —lensovet–talk – 03:34, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Chonopost, like Western Union, is one of the biggest companies cited by internet scammers in an attempt to give their emails credence.

For instance, I just received an email from someone posting a "For Sale" computer on Craigs List that wants me to use Chronopost as the means of delivery and payment. If you live in America and are buying items online, particularly from overseas, be very wary of scammers using Chronopost and Western Union.

Good Luck

The Chronopost Scam - 'Beck Carl' scam affecting Craigs List and other on line sites is modeled after the very successful TNT Scam. Bait is usually an electronic item, such as a laptop, or LCD TV at an attractive price. The mark or 'mugu' is then led to a spoof or fake Chronopost site, where payment by Western Union or other wire service is required. As several excellent scam busting websites state, ANY ONLINE TRANSACTION REQUIRING PAYMENT BY WESTERN UNION OR OTHER WIRE SERVICE IS ASSUREDLY A SCAM. Avoiding use of wire transfer services would greatly diminsh the success of this and other Nigerian scams - wire transfers now trail only oil as a source of cash into Nigeria.

This is the scammers stock e mail sent pursuant to Craigs List Ads, one for a TV on New Jersey Craigs List, the other for a computer :

FRAUD ALERT: 72" TOSHIBA DLP TELEVISION - $998 Reply to: sale-298683624@craigslist.org Date: 2007-03-23, 10:49AM EDT

Nigerian scammer here folks. Do not respond to this ad. I did and here's what I got in return. Must think we're all some kind of idiots.

My name is Beck Carl and I live in Topsfield ,MA .The item is new with 12 months warranty(with all standard accessories ). It is an unwanted gift, bought for my birthday and I want to sell it asap! Here is how I want to go about delivery and payment for the product which will be through Chronopost and will also give you the chance to inspect the product before I receive the payment for it. I will explain to you step by step how this will work. A. First you have to send me your shipping information (your name and address). 1. After I have received your shipping info, I'll go to a Chronopost Location and I will leave the product onto your name and address as the intended receiver. 2. Chronopost will check it to see that the unit was placed with all the papers and to see that is legal. B. You will receive a notification from Chronopost as a confirmation that the product is in their custody and also, that the product has been tested. 1.Chronopost will send you an invoice, and if everything is in order, they will deliver the product to your door step. 2. After you will receive the product and you will be completely satisfied with it, you will instruct Chronopost to release the payment information to me, so I can collect my money. C. If by any reason, you will not be satisfied with the product, you will return the product to Chronopost with no expenses. I will pay for the shipping and you for fee for the transferred amount. Let me know if we can do this!

Beck Carl Health and Safety Specialist Office of Environmental Health and Safety Topsfield, MA 01983 USA

PostingID: 298683624

las vegas craigslist > computers & tech > SCAM - Toshiba Satellite A25-S279 Notebook PC P4 2.8GHz - SCAM Avoid scams & fraud by dealing locally! Beware any deal involving Western Union, Moneygram, wire transfer, cashier check, money order, shipping, escrow, or any promise of transaction protection/certification/guarantee please flag with care : [miscategorized] [prohibited] [spam] [discussion] [best of] email this posting to a friend SCAM - Toshiba Satellite A25-S279 Notebook PC P4 2.8GHz - SCAM - $1 Reply to: sale-296762128@craigslist.org Date: 2007-03-19, 12:53PM PDT

This guy is a scam artist. Lots of people have already been fooled by him. This is the email he sends out. He sometimes uses different names but he isn't smart enough to change anything else.

My name is Beck Carl and I live in Topsfield ,MA .The item is new with 12 months warranty(with all standard accessories ). It is an unwanted gift, bought for my birthday and I want to sell it asap! Here is how I want to go about delivery and payment for the product which will be through Chronopost and will also give you the chance to inspect the product before I receive the payment for it. I will explain to you step by step how this will work. A. First you have to send me your shipping information (your name and address). 1. After I have received your shipping info, I'll go to a Chronopost Location and I will leave the product onto your name and address as the intended receiver. 2. Chronopost will check it to see that the unit was placed with all the papers and to see that is legal. B. You will receive a notification from Chronopost as a confirmation that the product is in their custody and also, that the product has been tested. 1.Chronopost will send you an invoice, and if everything is in order, they will deliver the product to your door step. 2. After you will receive the product and you will be completely satisfied with it, you will instruct Chronopost to release the payment information to me, so I can collect my money. C. If by any reason, you will not be satisfied with the product, you will return the product to Chronopost with no expenses. I will pay for the shipping and you for fee for the transferred amount. Let me know if we can do this!

Beck Carl Health and Safety Specialist Office of Environmental Health and Safety Topsfield, MA 01983 USA

More Scamming
I've just got a response from an online e-seller offering an iMac in spanish. It's just a translation of the above example using an online translator.

Hola

Mi nombre es Ele Elisa i vivir en Londres / Uk.The último precio para este tema es sólo 400 euros. El tema es nuevo, en caja con 12 meses de garantía internacional. Aquí está cómo quiero ir acerca de la entrega y el pago por el producto que se entrega a través de Chronopost y la empresa también le dará la oportunidad de inspeccionar el producto antes de recibir el pago por ello. Voy a explicar a usted paso a paso cómo funcionará. A. En primer lugar tienes que enviar tu información de envío (su nombre y dirección). 1. Después de recibir su información de envío, voy a ir a una empresa de distribución de Chronopost Localización y dejar el producto en su nombre y con su dirección como el receptor. 2. Chronopost comprobará el producto, también los papeles legales para ver que todo está bien con él. B. Usted recibirá una notificación de Chronopost como una confirmación de que el producto está bajo su custodia y, además, que el producto ha sido probado. 1.Chronopost empresa de distribución de verificar la voluntad de transferencia de dinero, y si todo está en orden, van a entregar el producto a su puerta. 2. Después de que usted reciba el producto y usted será completamente satisfecho con él, se le Chronopost instrucciones para liberar la información de pago para mí, para que pueda recoger mi dinero. C. Si por cualquier razón, usted no será satisfecho con el producto, que se devuelva el producto a Chronopost sin expensas. Voy a pagar por los gastos de envío y el importe de la transferencia. Por favor, responde me lo antes posible con su nombre completo, dirección y voy a comenzar la operación asap.Delivery: 2 días. Estoy a la espera de su envío detaills como este:

Nombre: Apellido: Dirección: Ciudad / Estado: Código Postal: País:

Déjame saber si podemos hacer esto.

Gracias! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.134.45.245 (talk) 15:19, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Not the best service
Chronopost's website tell you how helpful they are, how they listen, etc but don't have a means of contacting them on said site. Expect a long wait on the line if you telephone them. If they lose a parcel, then the tracking number is never enough and they ask for many unnecessary details, making you wonder what the tracking number is for? Their drivers do not seem to use GPS and have trouble finding anywhere in a rural location. (193.250.53.148 (talk) 10:54, 19 June 2009 (UTC))

Agreed. They suck. They have repeatedly lost our packages, and there is no way to e-mail them, so your choice is an expensive international phone call, which judging from the above comment doesn't sound like it would be fruitful. 74.103.120.202 (talk) 12:15, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

They are the worst, here in france they can be relied on NOT to deliver as and when. They lie, for example whilst I was in the garden, my wife in the kitchen, and we were awaiting the bus with my grandaughter on, their driver said we had a special gate that needed a code and we were not there. Frankly they need shutting down. I have a sign made up some 3 years ago painted that states that Chronopost you lie and do not visit. The assistant social for our tenant when she asked why post was not delivered just cracked up. The name should be "Onopost". Best description terrible, just look on the facebook page https://www.facebook.com/chronopost/photos/a.1399629816966338.1073741830.1386945634901423/1682247325371251/?type=3&comment_id=1682465128682804&reply_comment_id=1682466412016009 I totally agree with the notes above. Chronopost even told my wife they never picked up a package although we have the tracking number. Package lost, no communication. Insurance payout still to be orginized, but no real hope on my side. DO NOTEVER USE THEM!!!! THEY SHOULD NOT BE IN BUSINESS.

Scamming still going on
I think this DOES belong in the article. The same (Exactly the same text) is now going on in full in Flanders. On 'Kapaza.Be' (Flanders top-site for selling & buying) about 1 out of every 10 Mac-computers for sale are this kind of scam (I already received about a dozen times the above-mentioned 'Chronopost-Mail' in my letterbox. 81.244.142.97 (talk) 21:32, 24 November 2009 (UTC).

My bank just caught Chronopost of France making an unauthorized charge to my business bank account
SCAM! Fortunately my bank did not pay because it looked suspicious. Since no money was lost, the bank does not go after them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.200.239.56 (talk) 16:01, 28 February 2011 (UTC)