Talk:Church of St. Elijah, Podujevo

St. Andrew
''"St. Andrew was shelled, a bell tower completely destroyed with explosives and the wall that surrounded the church was demolished."

St. Andrew is the alternative name of the church or what? Radu Gherasim (talk) 22:11, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

This source (from the first revision): there's a report of a St Andreas church being destroyed, with dates the same as this one. This ref about St. Elijah has the year it was built as 1930 not 1929. I suspect the article has information about two churches.-- JohnBlackburne wordsdeeds 22:42, 27 February 2010 (UTC)


 * No, it is the same, as there are no other Orthodox church in Podujevo. It was built in 1929, and finished in 1930, as you can see above the entrance. And name is wrongly translated. It was translated also as Holy Apostle Andrej church, St. Andrew's church, and few more, but it is only Saint Elijah Church. --Tadija (talk) 11:53, 28 February 2010 (UTC)


 * I see. I guess then, the sentence must be modified with St. Elijah, right? Radu Gherasim (talk) 17:30, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Explanation
Category was reverted, as this church was attacked numerous times, with clear attacker desire to tear it down forever. That is terrorism, in very basic form, as Buddhas of Bamiyan. And restored clear redirect, that is not bad term, it is historically correct. Fascist Croatia is only one example... -- WhiteWriterspeaks 22:05, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, the church was attacked. But terrorism? That's Original research. bobrayner (talk) 12:02, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
 * No, that was "sky is blue" type of conclusion. And we have sources for that. Therefor, revert. Church was not attacked, but deliberately destroyed five times. -- WhiteWriterspeaks 19:43, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Really? Destruction is automatically terrorism? This must be a new definition of "terrorism" of which I was previously unaware. bobrayner (talk) 23:09, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
 * No, destruction is not, but this is. -- WhiteWriterspeaks 23:10, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

Whitewriter either find some reliable sources that back up your claims that it constitutes terrorism (not a random Youtube video or your personal conclusions) or remove the category. By the way the majority of sources present in the article including orthodoxnews.net, serbianunity.net, and kosovo.net are not reliable sources. -- ◅PRODUCER  ( TALK ) 12:50, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
 * The Terrorism-article does point at this event being a "terrorist act" in the respect that it was during the March Pogrom, with clear motives, though the civilian ethnic Albanians could not be labeled "terrorists", the act is.--Z oupan 13:33, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is not a reference nor should we be engaging in original research. It isn't up to us to personally decide. Reliable sources do the talking. -- ◅PRODUCER  ( TALK ) 13:40, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I've added a POV tag(kosovo.net etc.) and BK didn't even exist in 1941 so it couldn't be responsible for any alleged action.-- — ZjarriRrethues — talk 21:26, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

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