Talk:Church of the Brethren/Archive 1

Mack
No article on A. Mack?

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Corrected some spelling and some wording issues, added some links, and pictures. Still disappointed with the article, needs a lot of help.

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What are the Differences between (not ANA)Baptist and Menonite Brethren?
 * As I understand it, anabaptists believe in baptism, but not as an infant. The Amish, Mennonites and Brethern are all considered anabaptists.MornMore (talk) 00:59, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

I do not believe that the sentence "The Church of the Brethren is an organizational member of the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence, which advocates gun control. Many ministers and laymembers, however, are members of the National Rifle Association." really belongs in this article. The whole issue of gun control is not a central tenet of The Church of the Brethren, and this gives it too much emphasis. --RalphMiner

Alexander Mack Seal
If I remember correctly, the so-called "Alexander Mack Seal" was not invented until mamy years after Mack's death. If this is the case, it should be clarified in the caption under the seal.

Also, I think the denominational logo should be reduced in size so that it is less of an interuption to the flow of the text. It could be reduced by 2/3 with little loss of detail.

caution
Readers should be cautious with regard to the “Brethren-related websites” portion of the “External Links” section. “Voices for and Open Spirit” (sic) and “Brethren Mennonite Council on Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgendered Interests” are organizations that are not in any way recognized by the Church of the Brethren. In fact, their raison d'etre is in opposition to the long-standing (and now explicit) belief that sexual relations are appropriate only within a monogomous heterosexual marriage.
 * I am certainly no expert but never heard of the Community of True Inspiration (or Amana resettlement) shown in the Scharzenau Brethren template. The article says starting in Germany and a Peitism sect, so they have that in common, but cannot say how related they are..MornMore (talk) 00:59, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Trine immersion?
Could someone clarify what this means? I'm a Christian with a strong background in theology, but am unfamiliar with the term, and other Wikipedia resources don't mention it. Captainktainer * Talk 19:51, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

"Trine immersion" (also called "triune immersion") refers to baptizing by immersing one in water three times: once for the Father, once for the Son and once for the Holy Spirit. Perceptorii 18:00, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

merge with Schwarzenau Brethren
I don't know anything about this area -- I was trying to link up a term and came across articles that seemed to cover the same subject. older ≠ wiser 00:55, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

I strongly disagree with merging "Scharzenau Brethren" with "Church of the Brethren". There are several groups that are descended from the original Schwarzenau Brethren group: the Church of the Brethren, the (Ashland) Brethren Church, the Fellowship of Grace Brethren Churches, the Conservative Grace Brethren Churches, International, the Old German Baptist Brethren, Dunkard Brethren and Old Order German Baptist Brethren. There are also other groups that split off and eventually died off: the Ephrata movement, New Dunkers, and the Seventh Day German Baptist Church. To merge these articles is to suggest that the Church of the Brethren is most proper "Brethren" group, a position that I don't think they even hold.Perceptorii 18:29, 16 December 2006 (UTC)


 * I also disagree with merging "Schwarzenau Brethren" with "Church of the Brethren". Reason: significant differences warrant the seperate articles. -- Loaves 23:49, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

The term "Trine immersion" referson to baptisim (immersion) in the Trinity: The Father, The Son, and the Holy Spirit.

Fair use rationale for Image:Cblogo.jpg
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BetacommandBot (talk) 19:59, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Some updates
Hello all, just updated a few things. Cleaned up first two references, one going to the source ' 'Newsletter' '. For some reason it double counted the second one - is it the template? Speaking of references, brethern.org is under construction, so some reference and other links will need to be revisted. Adjusted some statements to be more neutral, though the counterpoint at the end of the Peace section may be weak. What else, added some history and consolidated a few one-line paragraphs. Will also try to comment on some of the questions above.MornMore (talk) 00:59, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

wikipedia page format issue
Sorry if this is off-topic, per se, but several of the [edit] links are out of place. The examples I spotted are:

Edit links for Beliefs and Non-creedalism and Peace are found at the end of the third paragraph under Peace.

Edit links for Ordinances and Anointing for healing are found at the end of the second paragraph under Anointing for healing.

The rest of the Edit links seem to be in their proper places. I opened the file for editing but found no means of correcting this. Either it is an error in the underlying coding process or I'm just skipping something in my ignorance. If someone could see to fixing this issue it would be appreciated (and dropping me a quick note as to how this is typically fixed so I can see to it in the future would also be appreciated). Thank you kindly in advance. JimScott (talk) 04:52, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Should the infobox caption be altered/removed?
It is rather long to say the least. And doesn't seem to abide to a neautral PoV [e.g. '..The cross recalls our baptism..', '..The circle, partially defined, represents the world into which we are sent by Christ..' (bold cases by me)].--Iamafanofpizza (talk) 03:30, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

Just to clarify, the main issue I see here is that it presents the article as a sort of brochure to the reader by the church organisation described in the article, thereby undermining the neautrality of the article.--Iamafanofpizza (talk) 03:34, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Caption I've simplified and modified it. What do you think? —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 05:15, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

External links modified
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 * Added archive https://web.archive.org/20081210172448/http://www.brethren.org/genbd/global_mission/Nigeria/History.html to http://www.brethren.org/genbd/global_mission/Nigeria/History.html

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