Talk:Chuseok

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article needs to be rewritten. Kokiri 08:02, 27 Aug 2004 (UTC)


 * Rewritten. Lupo 08:57, 6 Sep 2004 (UTC)

A mid-autumn festival, or an end of autumn festival?
I have lived in Korea for over three years now, but I am still very confused about one thing to do with Chuseok.

I believe the Chinese characters for 추석 are 秋夕. I think '秋' (qiū) means autumn (fall.) And '夕' (xī) means the end. But I also read that Chuseok is sometimes called Hankawi. That is 한가위 or '中秋节' in Hanja. As we already said '秋' is Autumn. I think '节' means an important time. But, strangely, '中' means middle.

To make this ultimately confusing, Chuseok is celebrated on August 15th in the lunar calendar. That is usually around the time of the Autumnal-Equinox - signalling the beginning of autumn!

I find this very confusing!

So, is Chuseok the "end of autumn" festival, the "middle of autumn" festival or the "beginning of autumn" festival?!?!

--211.217.248.58 04:45, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

You actually got the characters wrong. It's 仲秋節, not 中秋节(the last character you got is also a simplified Chinese version of 節) 仲 also means middle. (although this has a double meaning of "second," this meaning is not used in this case) 夕 actually means evening or night and does not mean end (at least in Korean culture) unless it is used in connotative words such as "sunset." (ex. 夕 would be used in this sentence; "the sunset of the British Empire...")

."It's 仲秋節, not 中秋节" Those two are literally the exact same things. The only difference is that the first one is traditional Chinese and the second is simplified. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.12.13.14 (talk) 18:44, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

Help Redirecting
Recently I searched a word 'Hangawi'(한가위, Traditional 'Thanksgiving' hoildays of Korea), however it has been redirected automatically to Mid-Autumn Festival article. Anyone who can re-direct 'Hangawi' to this article(Chuseok), Please help this request ASAP. Thanks Million. Peterhansen2032 (talk) 00:57, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Songpyeon a proper noun?
How is songpyeon a proper noun, as stated in this edit? Badagnani (talk) 07:23, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Removal of comparison to Mid-Autumn Festival
See. Badagnani (talk) 07:24, 10 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Because the two are different traditions that are not equivalent. VeryGoodBoy (talk) 21:11, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

What is your source showing that there is no relationship between the two? Badagnani (talk) 21:37, 10 September 2008 (UTC)


 * What is your source showing that there is no relationship between Chuseok and American Thanksgiving day? Link to the list of harvest festivals is given, so users can always compare Chuseok to other harvest festivals around the world. VeryGoodBoy (talk) 21:45, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

That is absolutely absurd given the geographic proximity to China and cultural diffusion. I am Korean and I have absolutely no problem admitting similarities between the two traditions. They are not identical, but certainly have a relationship with each other. Bringing up American Thanksgiving is lunacy. --SamjoonKim (talk) 19:39, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

See. Badagnani (talk) 16:01, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Related discussion at the Talk:Mid-Autumn_Festival yellowtailshark (talk) 14:54, 22 December 2013 (UTC)

Please redirect 추석 to Chuseok
Please have 추석 redirect to Chuseok. Presently 추석 redirects to Mid-Autumn Festival. 24.26.128.185 (talk) 14:59, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * ✅ but you could've done it by yourself.--Caspian blue (talk) 15:10, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks! 24.26.128.185 (talk) 20:57, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

It appears that this change has been undone. That seems wrong to me, but I'll trust in the collective consciousness. Possibly the fix is to redirect here but have a link to the generic Mid-Autumn Festival article. 5:00, 21 September 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.5.241.219 (talk)

Dates
The box at the top of the articles mentions 12 September 2012 is the date for Chuseok. However, the section "Dates for Chuseok" places the date at 30 September 2012. Please confirm which is correct. Matanong (talk) 01:31, 8 January 2012 (UTC)matanong
 * The infobox is based on input for "last year", "current year" and "next year". The "2011", "2012", "2013" labels are automatically generated. I've updated the dates. HkCaGu (talk) 18:25, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

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Travel guide/manual?
The article in its current state (or at least from what I'm concerned) looks less like a online encyclopedia page and is more reminiscent of a travel/tour guide, an instruction manual about what to do on a holiday, or some guy's review of a celebration (with a few the content which I'm pretty sure would be more appropriate on Wikivoyage).

Here are a few examples:

"There are some extravagant gifts that can be purchased: one kilogram of wild pine mushrooms, which are expensive because they cannot be artificially grown, (560,000 won) US$480.27 and red ginseng products (1.98 million won) US$1698.11. However, the most exorbitantly priced gift is six bottles of wine at Lotte Department Store for a staggering (33 million won) US$28,301.89."

"If buying a gift for a boss or an older person, personal hygiene products may not be appropriate. Honey is always a welcome gift. Another popular gift is a dried salted croaker fish.

For a co-worker, friend, or someone of similar age, dried fruit has typically been gifted, especially persimmon, or gham. Buying gifts for friends and colleagues is uncommon.

Rice cakes, tea, cookies or other equally small gifts are also acceptable. Most of the gift sets and packages at the stores are reasonably priced."

"Adults say that if you drink the alcoholic beverage which the ancestors have drunk; there will be nothing you’ll be scared of."

"Many places are closed during this national holiday including: banks, schools, post offices, governmental departments, stores, etc. Travel tickets are usually sold out three months in advance and roads and hotels are overcrowded."

Maybe if someone would rewrite the article as a more encyclopedic description, that would help.

Not trying to encourage disruptive editing or the like; just sharing my concerns. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.98.75.217 (talk) 01:21, 16 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you! I can entirely see your point now. It seemed to me that the article was heavy on customs and extremely light on history, meaning, sociology, etc. But reading some of those paragraphs on customs (instead of skimming past them) now that you have pointed them out, makes it much more clear. My bad.
 * Having said that, I'm too far behind at work and in knowledge to address it. The macro you tagged this article with seems correct. If I find some idle time, and references I can read (English), I might try researching a history paragraph. -- M.boli (talk) 02:18, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

Italicize?
Should Chuseok be italicized? Relevant policy: MOS:FOREIGNITALIC When used to refer to the holiday it's a proper noun to my knowledge, so shouldn't be italicized. 104.232.119.107 (talk) 04:15, 15 May 2024 (UTC)